<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Andy,<div>I just got this from Samsung:<div><br></div><div><div>Begin forwarded message:</div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#000000" style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><b>From: </b></font><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; ">Samsung Mobile Solution Group <<a href="mailto:semiconductor@samsung.com">semiconductor@samsung.com</a>></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#000000" style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><b>Date: </b></font><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; ">March 21, 2008 4:03:58 PM GMT+08:00</font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#000000" style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><b>To: </b></font><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><a href="mailto:wolfgang@openmoko.com">wolfgang@openmoko.com</a></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#000000" style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><b>Subject: </b></font><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><b>Reply] Registration confirmation</b></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div></div><p>Hello,<br><br>Thank you very much for your interest in our products.<br><br><br>We are very sorry, but we cannot provide your requested information according to the company security policies.<br><br>You are required to register with your company e-mail address to get the requested information.<br><br>Please register again with your company e-mail address to "<a href="http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/products/mobilesoc/Products_MobileSoC_Login.html" target="_blank"><b><font face="돋움" color="#0000ff">here</font></b></a>".<br><br>If you are denied the access even if you used your company e-mail, please elaborate more on your projects with our products to improve our understanding for your projects. We are more than happy to provide adequate information you needed, if you entitle more on your projects through <strong><font color="#0000ff">"</font></strong><a href="http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/footer/Footer_ContactUs.html" target="_blank"><strong><font face="돋움" color="#0000ff">Contact Us</font></strong></a>.<br><br><br>Sincerely,<br><br>Semiconductor Business<br><br>Samsung Electronics Co,. Ltd.<br><br><font size="2"><font face="Verdana" color="#999999" size="1">-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br><br>This is an automated response. Please do not respond to this message.</font> </font></p></blockquote><div>My Apple Mail client advises me that it "thinks this message is Junk Mail.". Unfortunately I think Mail is wrong.</div><div>Not sure what to do next. I think for now we have to consider Samsung to have closed off documentation for their chips.</div><div>I will try registering from a number of other e-mail accounts I have and report on the results.</div><div>What should we do? Openmoko can get the documentation under NDA but that is not how we understand openess.</div><div>Maybe we need to consider other chips?</div><div>I will try to get open documentation from Samsung, ideas welcome.</div><div>Best Regards,</div><div>Wolfgang</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>P.S.: Is there any underground URL on the web where the docs are available? They used to be available broadly so I guess lots of people have them...</div><div><br></div><div><div></div><blockquote type="cite">On Mar 20, 2008, at 5:09 PM, Andy Green wrote:<br><br><blockquote type="cite">-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Hash: SHA1<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Somebody in the thread at some point said:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">So what I'm trying to do now is to download documents from their<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">website, and see under what kind of restrictions I can get them.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Great... the full datasheets would really let everyone interested be<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">able to see what is going on, catch bugs, make suggestions throughout<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">the development process.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">What documents do we need?<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">2443 User Manual<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">6400 User Manual<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">they have some new PMU, anybody interested in that?<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">This is their PMU or the recommended one from Dialog Semi?<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><a href="http://www.dialog-semiconductor.com/download/Dialog_DA9034_Productbrief.pdf">http://www.dialog-semiconductor.com/download/Dialog_DA9034_Productbrief.pdf</a><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">I guess we are interested either way.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Unless the hardware guys used something extra, I think everything we<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">used on 2442 is in the big CPU manual.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">- -Andy<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux)<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - <a href="http://enigmail.mozdev.org">http://enigmail.mozdev.org</a><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">iD8DBQFH4inROjLpvpq7dMoRAjN5AJ46/uFqiE1olkxjckKQmhaJvUyaSQCeIhFR<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">OQw2Os/fyY6UWMbHITdjUSk=<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">=icok<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----<br></blockquote><br><br></blockquote></div><br></div></div></body></html>