Sad Story

Yorick Moko yorickmoko at
Fri Dec 12 20:02:42 CET 2008


On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 7:54 PM, Karthik Kumar <karthikkumar at> wrote:
> I clearly don't blame the developers here myself. I blame Openmoko's
> selfish management (probably it's board of directors or C*Os) for
> this. I am sure that a developer who talks back against this will just
> get fired/have to face bad consequences.
> What would be the best way to 'convince' or 'force' the management to
> change their decisions? Does anyone know a lawyer?
> -Karthik
> On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 11:23 PM, Paul <paultsai at> wrote:
>> My experience, as I'm sure with many other people, with my freerunner
>> has been frustrating most of the time.  To say, its all on the user is
>> wrong.  Granted the community could be better, however, its hard to
>> contribute when everything is so fragmented.
>> For instance, about the echo problem, one of the developers for
>> OpenMoko stated "Since there are different hw versions out there (a5,
>> a6, a7), it's impossible to provide one alsa state file that suits all
>> models."  Wait a sec.  If the developers know the issues, What's
>> preventing the if statement that would prevent hundreds of hours of
>> tweaking, testing, and frustration for the community?
>> Let's be honest here FIC is making a pretty penny off of OpenMoko,
>> using very old hardware selling at a premium price (2.5g not even
>> EDGE).  Yet we are OK with that.  What the community DOES expect is
>> basic support, for starters a phone that makes calls without echoing,
>> doesn't drop connection and sends and receives text messages reliably
>> as the Number 1 priority.  If I'm not mistaken, the majority of the
>> working code in OpenMoko is from Trolltech.  In addition FSO has a
>> very nice distro and the Freerunner isn't even its main device.  Yet
>> more than 1 year AFTER the release of the 1974, we still have MAJOR
>> issues from a basic install of Om.  Then we read stuff like this.
>> "OM is moving more focus to gta03 now, so my current resource for
>> qtopia is fairly limited."
>> It becomes evident that FIC and Openmoko cares less about creating
>> reliably working software then it does about moving products.  (not
>> blaming the developers here, they get pressure) Follow the next link
>> and I think I've made my case.
>> Now with that said, I will be posting online my howtos including
>> scripts to make a kinda stable variant of FDOM soon.  Been too busy
>> reflashing my phone.
>> On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 1:28 AM, Karthik Kumar <karthikkumar at> wrote:
>>> You should have fixed the GTA02 months back, when you released it.
>>> Instead, you people are working on GTA03/Neo Whatever. It proves that
>>> you don't care about the community, You just care about the bunch of
>>> people who might want to buy your upcoming phones, who sponsor your own
>>> selfish causes and suffer while you are working on GTA04.
>> --
>> Paul
>> Email - paultsai at
>> There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through
>> which he could realize his conception of the beautiful.
>> Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray
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