Sad Story

Wolfgang Spraul wolfgang at openmoko.com
Fri Dec 12 21:13:51 CET 2008


Karthik,

> this. I am sure that a developer who talks back against this will just
> get fired/have to face bad consequences.

Honestly, together with pretty much everything else you say, it's wrong.
In fact internally I am known as the one who kicks people if they  
don't post publicly :-)
Your problem is that pretty much everybody already does what you  
think they should do, so no matter how long you wait, you won't see  
the kind of complaint like "bad management forces us to work on next- 
gen product to rip off community".

GTA01, GTA02 and GTA03 are very close, basically one platform. The  
few people who work on gta03 hardware (2 to be precise) implicitly  
contribute to the whole platform. The vast majority works on gta02  
and gta01. Actually I am thinking about trying to buy some gta01 back  
from the community. They are quite legendary and we have too few  
internally. 2 in Taipei, for example. We wish we could do more  
testing & bug-fixing on gta01. It's the same platform anyway, and in  
addition we can support our customers.

> What would be the best way to 'convince' or 'force' the management to
> change their decisions? Does anyone know a lawyer?

Show me opportunities. Management needs to direct the company towards  
opportunities.

Best Regards,
Wolfgang

On 2008-12-13, at 上午2:54, Karthik Kumar wrote:

> I clearly don't blame the developers here myself. I blame Openmoko's
> selfish management (probably it's board of directors or C*Os) for
> this. I am sure that a developer who talks back against this will just
> get fired/have to face bad consequences.
>
> What would be the best way to 'convince' or 'force' the management to
> change their decisions? Does anyone know a lawyer?
>
> -Karthik
>
> On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 11:23 PM, Paul <paultsai at gmail.com> wrote:
>> My experience, as I'm sure with many other people, with my freerunner
>> has been frustrating most of the time.  To say, its all on the  
>> user is
>> wrong.  Granted the community could be better, however, its hard to
>> contribute when everything is so fragmented.
>>
>> For instance, about the echo problem, one of the developers for
>> OpenMoko stated "Since there are different hw versions out there (a5,
>> a6, a7), it's impossible to provide one alsa state file that suits  
>> all
>> models."  Wait a sec.  If the developers know the issues, What's
>> preventing the if statement that would prevent hundreds of hours of
>> tweaking, testing, and frustration for the community?
>>
>> Let's be honest here FIC is making a pretty penny off of OpenMoko,
>> using very old hardware selling at a premium price (2.5g not even
>> EDGE).  Yet we are OK with that.  What the community DOES expect is
>> basic support, for starters a phone that makes calls without echoing,
>> doesn't drop connection and sends and receives text messages reliably
>> as the Number 1 priority.  If I'm not mistaken, the majority of the
>> working code in OpenMoko is from Trolltech.  In addition FSO has a
>> very nice distro and the Freerunner isn't even its main device.  Yet
>> more than 1 year AFTER the release of the 1974, we still have MAJOR
>> issues from a basic install of Om.  Then we read stuff like this.
>>
>> "OM is moving more focus to gta03 now, so my current resource for
>> qtopia is fairly limited."
>>
>> It becomes evident that FIC and Openmoko cares less about creating
>> reliably working software then it does about moving products.  (not
>> blaming the developers here, they get pressure) Follow the next link
>> and I think I've made my case.
>>
>> http://www.cafepress.com/openmoko_inc
>>
>> Now with that said, I will be posting online my howtos including
>> scripts to make a kinda stable variant of FDOM soon.  Been too busy
>> reflashing my phone.
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 1:28 AM, Karthik Kumar  
>> <karthikkumar at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> You should have fixed the GTA02 months back, when you released it.
>>> Instead, you people are working on GTA03/Neo Whatever. It proves  
>>> that
>>> you don't care about the community, You just care about the bunch of
>>> people who might want to buy your upcoming phones, who sponsor  
>>> your own
>>> selfish causes and suffer while you are working on GTA04.
>>
>> --
>> Paul
>> Email - paultsai at gmail.com
>>
>> There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through
>> which he could realize his conception of the beautiful.
>> Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray
>>
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