Bluetooth busted (Was: [HW] Ear phones with microphone, for hands-free calling?)

jere samuli perttula j.s.perttula at
Wed Apr 1 06:58:11 CEST 2009

Hi,I'm sorry to hear that you've had more than your share of bad luck with
your FR and this support mailing list. I've had quite much trouble getting
my FR to work with the regular OM releases or the FDOM releases, but I've
got my phone working really well with Hackable:1. I haven't tested bluetooth
headsets with it because there hasn't been a need to do it because the sound
system works well. Give it a try and mail me (on this list) if you run into
troubles with it.

-Jere Samuli Perttula,
 Freerunner user from Finland

PS. All you people here, try not to bash others who are just trying to get
help. They can be "quite" unhappy with what they've got and thus appear
angry, but they're still people just like you and me. If we want this
project to survive we *have to* cope with all kinds of people.

On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 07:03, Craig Woodward <woody at> wrote:

> ---- Joerg Reisenweber <joerg at> wrote:
> >Sorry, this whole pile of rant is mostly completely incorrect.
> >The remarks about "debug-tool that runs on a certain linux release" reveal
> the
> >value of the whole message as well as the competence of OP.
> >/j
> Really?  Can you tell me then of one image that will work using a bluetooth
> headset for calls?  A link to an image?  Or would that be too helpful.
>  Maybe you can insult me instead, oh wait, you did.  With people like you
> mailing from an address is it ANY wonder why they have a bad rap?
> I *tried* pulling the debug tool posted on the wiki (which was only
> available on the site as a compiled executable, no source tars) and MY linux
> system didn't like it, since it wasn't statically linked.   While I'm sure I
> could go setup git, track down the Android source repository, pull the
> source, and compile it myself, that's a lot of work just to *try* to setup
> an image that *might* work with a bluetooth setup.
> As for my "competence", I hold a BS in CS and CE from a well respected tech
> college, and was an active coder on the early linux core back in the early
> 90s, pre 1.0 through the 1.X series. (Then I graduated, got a job, and
> lacked time to work on it.)  I now work daily with micro-embedded
> controllers, some running custom linux variants.  So I know my way around a
> micro, I just don't have the hours I'd need to debug and develop a phone/kit
> right now.  I bought this phone thinking it would be like my other kits,
> where I'd have a stable, working base to start on and I could touch it up at
> my leisure with things I wanted to augment.  I never imagined 12 months
> later it would still be unable to connect to more than one wifi spot without
> rebooting, or have problems maintaining a GSM link.
> ---- arne anka <openmoko at> wrote:
> =============
> > so, what are you doing here anyway?
> In case you missed it, I was UNABLE to sell my FR.  That's why I'm still
> here.  I still have a $400 device that's supposed to be a phone that barely
> works as a poor PDA.  I say poor, since most PDAs in that price range have
> usable Wifi, a USB sync system, and a battery life longer than 8 hours.
>  Most of those PDAs (windows or linux based) also have a reasonable SDK kit
> that minimally gives you a working base image and maybe a source snapshot.
>  So far FR hasn't had a working base image yet that I can flash, turn on,
> tap in a few config items, and start making stable, reliable calls with,
> without HOURS of tweaking.
> I'm here because FIC/OM told people a year ago they were launching a
> working open-source phone, and I was stupid enough to believe them (and the
> people on this list), and plunked down $400.  A year later, I'm still here,
> and have a "wonderful open-source phone" that I can't use or sell for even
> half what I bought it for.
> All I can do now is hope that eventually someone will make a stable core
> for it and release it.  And some are getting close, like Android.  Kudos to
> the folks working on that port really, since it's made more progress in 6
> months than FIC/OM has in 2 years.  Hopefully that will overcome it's
> reliance on a hard keyboard soon.
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