FCC status for FIC Neo1973?

Paul Bohme openmoko at bohme.org
Thu Dec 14 02:13:53 CET 2006

Jeremy wrote:
> I'm no expert at all, but I do know that when we were designing a 
> device with a Kyocera m200 CDMA data module 
> (http://www.kyocera-wireless.com/m2m-business/index.htm), the module 
> itself was carrier (Sprint in our case) approved and FCC approved, but 
> once we incorporated it into our device, we then had to get it 
> re-approved by the carrier and the FCC (though it is typically an 
> easier process when using an approved module already).  I think the 
> deciding factor may be whether the module is "stand-alone" or not... 
> But I say that with the disclaimer that I could be completely wrong. :)

My experience so far putting modules for both GSM and CDMA into another 
product has been similar - even though the module itself is 'approved' 
the actual application to which it is put must also be run through an 
evaluation process.

As far as carriers in the US, I know Cingular is good for GSM.  Not sure 
who else?  Are approval issues going to be a problem for the Neo1973 in 
the States?  (Am looking forward to getting one, and not being able to 
use it as a phone would be a serious damper.. ;-)


> ~Jeremy
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Graham Auld <openmoko at graham.auld.me.uk>
> To: community at lists.openmoko.org
> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 2:06:45 PM
> Subject: FCC status for FIC Neo1973?
> I wouldn't expect such an issue as i expect the GSM module will be 
> correctly certified and as access is via AT command set you 
> /shouldn't/ be able to make it do things it's not allowed to...
> someone please correct me if i'm incorrect in my assumptions
> Graham
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* community-bounces at lists.openmoko.org 
> [mailto:community-bounces at lists.openmoko.org] *On Behalf Of *Jeff Andros
> *Sent:* 13 December 2006 16:17
> *To:* David Schlesinger
> *Cc:* community at lists.openmoko.org; La Monte Henry Piggy Yarroll
> *Subject:* Re: FCC status for FIC Neo1973?
> >not to mention completely outside the terms of service of any major 
> carrier...?
> a while ago, I spoke to both Cingular and T-Mob, I told them I was 
> doing some work with a gm-862, both said there was nothing in their 
> service restrictions about connecting with weird equipment like that
> --Jeff
> On 12/13/06, *David Schlesinger* <David.Schlesinger at palmsource.com 
> <mailto:David.Schlesinger at palmsource.com>> wrote:
>     Do you mean "legal challenges" beyond its use being, strictly
>     speaking, a violation of Federal law, not to mention completely
>     outside the terms of service of any major carrier...?
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: community-bounces at lists.openmoko.org
>     <mailto:community-bounces at lists.openmoko.org> on behalf of La
>     Monte Henry Piggy Yarroll
>     Sent: Wed 12/13/2006 7:37 AM
>     To: community at lists.openmoko.org <mailto:community at lists.openmoko.org>
>     Subject: FCC status for FIC Neo1973?
>     Would anyone care to comment on the FCC status of the FIC Neo1973? In
>     particular, are there any legal challenges associated with using
>     prototypes on a live GSM network?

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