tomtom on the Neo1973

Andrew Turner ajturner at highearthorbit.com
Mon Apr 2 19:22:13 CEST 2007


On 4/2/07, adrian cockcroft <adrian.cockcroft at gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm happy with the capabilities of Google maps, except that it doesn't
> know where I am....

Caching googlemaps tiles, and not through their client, is a violation
of their Terms of Service.  Same for all the other providers. So
you're restricted to writing a client that either uses commercial maps
(again, difficult to find providers that are willing to sell 'just the
data'), or open data such as OpenStreetMap or Vmap0 or scanned in,
rectified, out-of-copyright maps.

To address the questions of quality/support of OSM - check out this
recent blog post:
http://www.opengeodata.org/?p=189

The UK Ordnance Survey - national mapping agency - is incorporating
their data into OSM, and also taking ownership of the OSM data and
resources in order to better incorporate their efforts. What this
means is that OSM will get very high-quality, very quickly. At least
in the UK. The US-OSM is already bringing in the free Tiger/Census map
data that most US maps are built on.


> So given java support on OpenMoko, I think there is already a fairly
> generic mobile Java version of Google Maps that should just work...
> However to interface to the GPS we will need a modified version. I
> think there is at least one platform specific version of Google Maps
> that does have GPS integration.
>
> I'm sure we can find someone at Google who can help us figure out what
> it would take to support the OpenMoko/Neo1973. I wouldn't be surprise
> if there was someone who works at Google subscribed to this list :-)

Right, but the bigger question is if Google wanted to develop &
support their GmapsMobile for OpenMoko. This will be difficult.

>
> Adrian
>
> On 4/2/07, karsten.at.openmoko at onlinehome.de
> <karsten.at.openmoko at onlinehome.de> wrote:
> > If I remember correctly the company of smart2go was bought by Nokia
> > last year.
> > So I don't think they will support other phones but Nokias in near
> > future.
> >
> > Regards
> > Karsten
> >
> > On Monday 02 April 2007 11:42:51 Attila Csipa wrote:
> > > On Monday 02 April 2007 08:13, Hans L wrote:
> > > > I guess it is a question of whether the map providers are willing to
> > > > cooperate and divulge the details of their file format to an open source
> > > > project, or alternatively converting their data into some open format for
> > > > use with such a project.
> > >
> > > In my experience this is highly unlikely. Their first thought would be
> > > content protection - and on OpenMoko you (should) have none. When they
> > > license data to software companies, it's easier, since they have NDA-s,
> > > contractual obligations, etc, but they would see no incentive to open up
> > > their formats. The income from end users buying open format data is
> > > minuscule compared to the possible damages from pirated data and/or lost
> > > bulk contracts from their point of view. And to reiterate a personal
> > > opinion about commercial software on OM - please do not change or put a
> > > minute of effort in OpenMoko to make commercial software run easier than
> > > any other software (unless you get a substantial donation :) - if a company
> > > is to make some money on OpenMoko users, let it at least pay it's own costs
> > > in full.
> >
> > and what about smart2go ?
> >
> > www.smart2go.com
> >
> > W
> >
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