Import Duty - I have refused my delivery.

Peter Trapp openmoko at genial.ms
Fri Aug 3 14:46:22 CEST 2007


On Friday 03 August 2007 14:20, David.Prior at generaldynamics.uk.com wrote:
> Thomas:
>
> Importation of computer devices and peripherals to the EU is indeed both
> VAT and import duty exempt - it appears that the description of the goods,
> compounded with the value statement, has led to this issue. It is indeed
> OpenMoko's error in not understanding the rules and I hold them responsible
> for not disclosing that fact.
>
> When I can import USD$50,000 prototypes for computer peripheral units
> without paying VAT and without paying import duty, I expect to be able to
> do the same for a USD$450 prototype.
>

I would not expect this. I've talked to some guys from UPS regarding VAT. They 
told me that I have to pay VAT if the price of the more than 22€. This 
information belongs to germany (dunno if I can extend this to the EU). Btw I 
didn't had to pay import duty...

- homyx


> Not to get into a flame war but, for your reference, VAT is 17.5% in the
> UK....and I ordered the Advanced...
>
> Have fun!
>
> David.
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: Thomas Gstädtner [mailto:thomas at gstaedtner.net]
> Sent: 03 August 2007 13:12
> To: David Prior
> Cc: community at lists.openmoko.org
> Subject: Re: Import Duty - I have refused my delivery.
>
>
> Well, you chose to live in the wrong country (or the wrong continent). You
> should know what expects you if YOU IMPORT a device. This is not the fault
> of OpenMoko (Inc.).
> Also there is no duty on computing devices and mobile phones in the EU - so
> I guess you are wrong. GBP60 sounds like VAT (15.5% in UK), seems you have
> ordered the basic device, so this IS VAT, no duty! VAT is levied by your
> country, not by FIC/OpenMoko and if you chose to import you WILL have to
> pay VAT every time - and the one you import from doesn't have to find out
> for you how much it is (as it is charged by the customs, not by the
> company).
>
>
>
> 2007/8/3, David.Prior at generaldynamics.uk.com
> <David.Prior at generaldynamics.uk.com >:
>
> 	Just thought you all might like to know that OpenMoko shipments are
> attracting import duty in the United Kingdom.
>
> 	Despite paying USD104.99 for 'expedited' shipping, my order arrived with a
> demand for GBP57.19 in import duty. This should either be factored into the
> shipping charge or, as these devices are technically 'computer
> peripherals', described as 'computer peripherals' in order that they do not
> attract import duty.
>
> 	I have REFUSED my delivery and it is being returned to the depot and,
> presumably, will be returned to sender.
>
> 	I either want a new shipment that does not attract import duty *or* I want
> a full refund.
>
> 	I know these are developer releases but I would have hoped that OpenMoko
> would have sorted out the international shipping issues properly.
>
>
> 	I'm annoyed!
>
> 	David.
>
>
>
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