need someone to develop this....

[Dean Collins]

Nope sorry - doesn't work that way. It's been publicly disclosed now.


Regards,
Dean Collins
Cognation Pty Ltd
dean at cognation.net 
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-----Original Message-----
From: community-bounces at lists.openmoko.org [mailto:community-bounces at lists.openmoko.org] On Behalf Of GWMobile
Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2007 2:34 AM
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Subject: Re: need someone to develop this....

I don't think discussing this here would be considered an open 
disclosure.
Talking on a finite list or limited membership with moderation and thus 
controlled membership is not necessarily open disclosure and not the 
same as a public printing therefore I think it would still be 
patentable.

On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 2:33 pm, Dean Collins wrote:
> This is too perfect. What a cool idea - seriously unfortunately now 
> that you've published here is no longer able to be but was worthy of a 
> patenting.
>
> Not only could the method of shaking but the timing of shaking could 
> have been the key.
>
> Eg hold two devices next to each other and shake them up and down - 
> because of the semi-physical connection they would have the same 
> accelerometer readings this couldn't be replicated unless you had 
> someone 'watching' you move them up and down and was copying the 
> movements within the tolerance errors.
>
>
> Regards,
> Dean Collins
> Cognation Pty Ltd
> dean at cognation.net 
> +1-212-203-4357
> +61-2-9016-5642 (Sydney in-dial).
>  
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: community-bounces at lists.openmoko.org 
> [mailto:community-bounces at lists.openmoko.org] On Behalf Of Michael 
> Shiloh
> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 3:35 PM
> To: List for OpenMoko community discussion
> Subject: Re: need someone to develop this....
>>  If Bob (or Alice) hands his (or her) phone to the other, then if both
>>  phones are shaken in the same hand, the acceleration pattern might
>>  provide an extremely unique yet similar signature, not unlike 
>> exchanging
>>  an encryption key.
>>
>>  So if you want to establish a trusted relationship with another Neo
>>  user, the two phones are shaken together until the software indicates
>>  that you have generated a complex enough pattern that has been
>>  recognized on the other.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: community-bounces at lists.openmoko.org 
> [mailto:community-bounces at lists.openmoko.org] On Behalf Of Ian Darwin
> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 4:35 PM
> To: List for OpenMoko community discussion
> Subject: Re: need someone to develop this....
> Michael, this is (I think) brilliant!
>
> We could call it... "the handshake" (OK, anyone who doesn't know why
> that's funny, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Handshaking).
>
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