Shipping questions, customer organized distribution in Europe

[Geoff Ruscoe]

I'm a little confused.

Are you saying to order 1 phone to the US we will have to pay $70 for
shipping?  That is so expensive!  We need to make sure everyone is aware of
this, because we must order the 10 packs.  I have posted for the Indiana /
Kentucky 10 pack.

So if we were to order a 10 pack it would be $160 shipping right?  So $16 /
phone.  So we would get a $30 or $40 discount on the phone and then a $54
discount on the shipping.

Am I putting this together correctly?  You were talking about shipping to
the U.S. right?

I say this because I noticed on one line you said to California and on
another line I saw shipping with UPS from the US.

Can you clarify so we can make sure we get our 10 people together.

Thanks!


On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 1:56 PM, steve <steve at openmoko.com> wrote:

>  Lots of questions.
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> Let me see if I can help with some basics.
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> We ship a 10 Pack  to Fremont California.
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> Dimensions are  435mm x 371mm x 119mm
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> I think the weight is on the order of 3kilo. An individual box weighs 237
> gm.
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> The individual box is dimensioned thusly. 178mm  x 104mm x 84mm
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> just doing a quick check from UPS the shipment from the US for a single
> phone would be on the order of 70 USD
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> For 10 phones the bulk is on the order of 160USD, which mean 16USD per
> customer.
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> I picked a random EU city to just get a sense of things.
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> EU hub will happen in due course. When the costs of hubbing in the EU
> benefit our end users.
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> Steve
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> *From:* community-bounces at lists.openmoko.org [mailto:
> community-bounces at lists.openmoko.org] *On Behalf Of *Erland Lewin
> *Sent:* Sunday, April 27, 2008 10:06 AM
> *To:* List for Openmoko community discussion
> *Subject:* Shipping questions, customer organized distribution in Europe
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> In preparation for The Big Day, I have some questions about how the
> shipping from OpenMoko will work.
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> How much does one package (with a single phone) weigh (approximately)?
> What will its dimensions be?
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> There's been talk about a hub in Europe, has that idea been scrubbed? IF
> not, will it be in place in time for the first shipments?
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> When ordering directly from OpenMoko to Europe, how much will shipping
> cost for a 10-pack? Would that package come from the US, China or Taiwan
> (just curious)? How much would shipping be for 24 10-packs (approximately
> 235 phones have been noted for Europe on the Community purchase wiki page)?
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> If OpenMoko doesn't set up a hub in Europe, I wonder if it would make
> sense for us consumers to do our own hub-like distribution. Using prices
> from the Swedish postal service (which is probably not one of the cheapest
> in Europe), if a single phone package weighs between 500 g and 1 kg, it
> would cost €24 to send as an insured letter to other European countries. Not
> all that expensive, I think.
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> Distribution would probably be even less expensive if we order one package
> to the country in Europe with the lowest postal rates (maybe combined with a
> low VAT), then ship phones to one person in each country in the city/region
> with most buyers, who then posts them domestically to each buyer in other
> parts of his country, and maybe hands them out to buyers in his own city.
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> The biggest difficulty would probably be that this would involve a lot of
> money (over 50 kEUR), and increase the trust required for all this to work.
> How much we would save on the shipping would be a factor involved in whether
> this would be worth the trouble.
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> Buying directly from OpenMoko would probably not provide us with a
> particularly good guarantee, so some European buyers might prefer to buy
> from European resellers.
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> If we could get the shipping costs (which should be known by now?), we
> could do some calculations.
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> /Erland
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Geoff Ruscoe
Sigma Visions Computer Consulting
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