2008.8 update

Yorick Moko yorickmoko at gmail.com
Thu Aug 28 11:21:40 CEST 2008


Just for clarity's sake:
When using Om2008.8-upgrade, which feeds do we need to use?
http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/
or zecke's feeds?

or do we have to wait a little bit?
thanks
y

On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 6:24 AM, Wolfgang Spraul <wolfgang at openmoko.com> wrote:
> Bill,
>
>> sms mode.  The bug was closed  with what to an English speaker means
>> "its working, so go away".  This certainly teed me right off.  In
> ...
>> Yes, I am still peeved by the way the bug was closed - why bother
>> raising bugs when it results in actions like this?  Its all very well
>> saying its open, give them a chance etc, but eventually, something
>> will
>> have to change here.
>
> Sorry to hear that.
> Thank you very much for posting the bug!
> Can you post some URLs? Which bug are you referring to? Who closed it
> in a way that offended you?
>
> Please remember that Openmoko is a very global team. Sometimes it's
> just a language issue that the friendliness gets lost in translation...
> Thanks again for helping us with our project. The more (high quality)
> bugs you report the better for all of us since we are developing Free
> Software!
> Best Regards,
> Wolfgang
>
> On Aug 26, 2008, at 9:38 PM, William Kenworthy wrote:
>
>> The problem is OM are not responding in a way that reassures us that
>> 2008.8 is being shaped to our concerns.  I raised a bug that the
>> default
>> 2008.8 keyboard was almost impossible to use in anything but an
>> english
>> sms mode.  The bug was closed  with what to an English speaker means
>> "its working, so go away".  This certainly teed me right off.  In
>> postings since, its been explained that this was actually because of
>> the
>> way the bug reporting system works with engineering, and it doesnt
>> work
>> like we are used to in most opensource projects where you can raise a
>> bug about ANY concern and it will be attended to/allocated as
>> required,
>> not closed because it doesnt neatly fit some engineers idea of a bug.
>>
>> So basicly yes, Yorick is speaking for very many of us.  There is a
>> severe usability issue with 2008.8 and its being ignored.  Saying
>> its up
>> to the community to fix is laughable - we have fixed it, so why is OM
>> not listening?
>>
>> Yes, I am still peeved by the way the bug was closed - why bother
>> raising bugs when it results in actions like this?  Its all very well
>> saying its open, give them a chance etc, but eventually, something
>> will
>> have to change here.
>>
>> BillK
>>
>> On Tue, 2008-08-26 at 14:06 +0200, Michele Renda wrote:
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>>> Nishit, I realy hope that Yorick don't speak for a lot of US.
>>>
>>> There are way and way to make a comment of something is not right: a
>>> person can:
>>>
>>> A. make in a proposive way, opening tickets, and specificating the
>>> points that can be done in a different way, or, a person can just
>>> say:
>>> B. It doesn't run, It doesn't run, It doesn't run -> It is a f**king
>>> phone -> It is a f**king firm.
>>>
>>> You have the "fredom of arbitry", we can do all that we want with our
>>> phone: this is not necessarily a nice thing: the software is far to
>>> be
>>> mature, and a lot of things must to be done. It the price of the
>>> freedom.
>>>
>>> But if you choose the freedom, please don't use B. There are a lot of
>>> better thing to do.
>>
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