Stage of GTA03 development?

Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) raster at rasterman.com
Thu Dec 18 10:41:13 CET 2008


On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 10:25:54 +0100 (CET) "Pander"
<pander at users.sourceforge.net> babbled:

don't know - i dont work on gta03, but i do know in japan there is ONLY 3g+ -
no 2g. :) (well pre 3g there were proprietary packet-based networks in japan).

> How is UMTS support on GTA03 (read support in Japan)?
> 
> On Thu, December 18, 2008 10:02, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
> > On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 09:46:54 +0100 "Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller"
> > <hns at computer.org> babbled:
> >
> >>
> >> Am 18.12.2008 um 00:12 schrieb Will Siddall:
> >>
> >> > On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 7:02 PM, Justyn Butler
> >> > <justynbutler+openmoko at googlemail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Replace the mc75i with a 3.5G modem! Go on, surprise us all!
> >>
> >> We perhaps will be most surprised how much a 3G modem will cost...
> >
> > a 3g modem/module/chipset is REALLY expensive. especially if you have low
> > volume (that means less than a few hundred thousand units). you pay a
> > small
> > fortune in royalties too.
> >
> >> >> I have to agree with Justyn and say that we need a 3G phone.  I
> >> >> bought
> >> > this phone in hopes that I can use it when I travel around.
> >> > Unfortunately, when I leave the country, it just becomes a toy to play
> >> > around with and most of the time I have to leave it behind :(
> >>
> >> Why that?
> >>
> >> I don't own a 3G phone but a UMTS wireless card for my Mac.
> >>
> >> My practical experience is:
> >>
> >> a) in areas (urban) where you have HSDPA speed, you also have WiFi
> >> hotspots
> >>
> >> b) in all other areas (more rural) your connection falls back to GPRS
> >> anyway
> >>
> >> So, a phone that combines GPRS and WiFi is a little more difficult to
> >> connect
> >> to the correct network but has no dramatically worse connectivity than
> >> real 3G.
> >>
> >> 2 months ago I had to run a VNC connection to my server back home
> >> through GPRS.
> >> Slowly, but it worked.
> >>
> >> Improving to 3G is therefore a "nice to have" for me. Not mandatory.
> >
> > here is where i'd disagree. i can walk down my street in sydney - 100% of
> > wifi
> > spots are locked (wep/wpa etc.) - no one opens them. yopur choice is
> > "spotty"
> > wifi hotspots you have to pay for. the other option is 3g (umts/hsdpa
> > etc.)
> > which has pretty good coverage most areas in urban settings - even
> > outside. i
> > think there seems to be some assumption that wifi is so widespread in
> > urban
> > areas (and it comes at a cost equal to or cheaper than 3g datarates). this
> > is
> > not the case in australia. not to mention the datarates for 3g are MUCH
> > less
> > than 2g - they give you a discount for 3g data, but for 2g, it's rap you
> > silly
> > per kilobyte. why? the phone network's 2g data setup was NOT designed for
> > heavy
> > data usage - it's being abused for data and that impacts call quality and
> > the
> > providers will appropriately price the service based on the network
> > ability to
> > provide. so 3g is reasonable. for 2g i will never pay for it as its
> > outragoeus.
> >
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> >
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