COMMUNITY DIGEST, VOL 62, ISSUE 11

左 国坤 george at nix.vision-funai.com
Thu Jan 17 01:36:48 CET 2008


I prefer to using Qtopia, but No Voice when using VoIP via USB connnection
or BT connection.
Lorn told me he will release a fixed version soon. I am looking forward to
it.

George
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> Subject: COMMUNITY DIGEST, VOL 62, ISSUE 11
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> Date: 17-01-2008 9:08 am
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>    1. Re: OpenMoko will be at SVHMPC meeting TONIGHT in Menlo Park
>       (enaut)
>    2. New to OpenMoko (Barry Steele)
>    3. Re: New to OpenMoko (Lorn Potter)
>    4. Re: New to OpenMoko (Michael Shiloh)
>    5. Re: New to OpenMoko (Barry Steele)
>    6. Re: New to OpenMoko (Barry Steele)
>    7. Re: New to OpenMoko (Wilkinson, Alex)
>    8. Re: New to OpenMoko (Lorn Potter)
>    9. Re: New to OpenMoko (Lorn Potter)
>   10. Re: OpenMoko will be at SVHMPC meeting TONIGHT in Menlo Park
>       (herve couvelard)
> If I only had the time to develop anything... studying computersince  I 
> almost had to quit programming :( and the rest I do is not relevant to  
> anything. The only cause that I listen to this list is that I really 
> like the Idea behind openMoko and I really enjoy the news about it and 
> to read all the discoussion going on and no doubt I already learned a 
> lot so thank you for opening up development.
> 
> Enaut
> 
> Michael Shiloh schrieb:
> > Good question, Jeffrey, and you suggest a question that I'd like to 
> > ask you, the community:
> >
> > Why do you chose to develop on OpenMoko, rather than on Android? Or do 
> > you do both?
> >
> > (Beside the lack of Android hardware)
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >
> >
> > Jeffrey Thomas wrote:
> >> I am unable to attend this meeting due to geography, 
> > but if anyone is in attendance I would be interested to hear the 
> > Google people's response to
> > why they felt the need to start a competitive project rather than join 
> > the OpenMoko team.
> >>
> >> Michael, as an official in the OpenMoko community, I wouldn't expect 
> >> you to ask this, 
> > but if someone else is in attendance, raise the question and report 
> > back to us!
> >>
> >> Jeffrey
> >> Minnesota USA
> >>
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> 
> 
> 
> Hi,
> I just took delivery of a neo1973 (I'm in Australia btw, Sydney). 
> 
> I have inserted the microSD and SIM cards and booted the machine up.
> 
> I get the boot logo and then Linux tries to start but I get the following:
> 
> "Kernel Panic- not syncing: No init found.  Try passing init= option to 
> kernel"
> 
> While I have a fair bit of Linux experience, I have no idea how to 
> connect to the machine or edit files or whatever.
> 
> I am looking on the Openmoko site, but I would really appreciate any
advice.
> 
> I am very excited by this.
> 
> Stay well,
> Barry
> 
> -- 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Barry Steele wrote:
> > Hi,
> > I just took delivery of a neo1973 (I'm in Australia btw, Sydney).
> > I have inserted the microSD and SIM cards and booted the machine up.
> > 
> > I get the boot logo and then Linux tries to start but I get the
following:
> > 
> > "Kernel Panic- not syncing: No init found.  Try passing init= option to 
> > kernel"
> > 
> > While I have a fair bit of Linux experience, I have no idea how to 
> > connect to the machine or edit files or whatever.
> > 
> > I am looking on the Openmoko site, but I would really appreciate any 
> > advice.
> > 
> > I am very excited by this.
> > 
> > Stay well,
> > Barry
> > 
> 
> The neo does not come with a root filesystem, so you'll have to flash one.
> 
> For me, Qtopia images from qtopia.net work great :)
> 
> 
> -- 
> Lorn 'ljp' Potter
> Software Engineer, Systems Group, MES, Trolltech
> 
> 
> 
> Welcome to OpenMoko, Barry!
> 
> All you need to do is flash a new kernel and file system. Get the latest 
> from
> 
> http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/neo1973/deploy/glibc/images/neo1973/
> 
> Good luck and let us know how it goes,
> 
> Michael
> 
> 
> Barry Steele wrote:
> > Hi,
> > I just took delivery of a neo1973 (I'm in Australia btw, Sydney).
> > I have inserted the microSD and SIM cards and booted the machine up.
> > 
> > I get the boot logo and then Linux tries to start but I get the
following:
> > 
> > "Kernel Panic- not syncing: No init found.  Try passing init= option to 
> > kernel"
> > 
> > While I have a fair bit of Linux experience, I have no idea how to 
> > connect to the machine or edit files or whatever.
> > 
> > I am looking on the Openmoko site, but I would really appreciate any 
> > advice.
> > 
> > I am very excited by this.
> > 
> > Stay well,
> > Barry
> > 
> 
> 
> Thanks Michael,
> I will let you know how we get on.
> 
> Looks like a learning opportunity.
> 
> Love the look of the machine btw.
> 
> Stay well,
> Barry
> 
> Michael Shiloh wrote:
> > Welcome to OpenMoko, Barry!
> >
> > All you need to do is flash a new kernel and file system. Get the 
> > latest from
> >
> > http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/neo1973/deploy/glibc/images/neo1973/
> >
> > Good luck and let us know how it goes,
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >
> > Barry Steele wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >> I just took delivery of a neo1973 (I'm in Australia btw, Sydney).
> >> I have inserted the microSD and SIM cards and booted the machine up.
> >>
> >> I get the boot logo and then Linux tries to start but I get the 
> >> following:
> >>
> >> "Kernel Panic- not syncing: No init found.  Try passing init= option 
> >> to kernel"
> >>
> >> While I have a fair bit of Linux experience, I have no idea how to 
> >> connect to the machine or edit files or whatever.
> >>
> >> I am looking on the Openmoko site, but I would really appreciate any 
> >> advice.
> >>
> >> I am very excited by this.
> >>
> >> Stay well,
> >> Barry
> >>
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > OpenMoko community mailing list
> > community at lists.openmoko.org
> > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Barry Steele
> hpfm solutions
> http://www.hpfm.com.au
> (o) +612 8206 1822
> (f) +612 9929 3653
> 
> Stay Happy, Stay Well, get involved...
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks Lorn,
> Will let you know how I get on.
> 
> Barry
> Lorn Potter wrote:
> > Barry Steele wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >> I just took delivery of a neo1973 (I'm in Australia btw, Sydney).
> >> I have inserted the microSD and SIM cards and booted the machine up.
> >>
> >> I get the boot logo and then Linux tries to start but I get the 
> >> following:
> >>
> >> "Kernel Panic- not syncing: No init found.  Try passing init= option 
> >> to kernel"
> >>
> >> While I have a fair bit of Linux experience, I have no idea how to 
> >> connect to the machine or edit files or whatever.
> >>
> >> I am looking on the Openmoko site, but I would really appreciate any 
> >> advice.
> >>
> >> I am very excited by this.
> >>
> >> Stay well,
> >> Barry
> >>
> >
> > The neo does not come with a root filesystem, so you'll have to flash 
> > one.
> >
> > For me, Qtopia images from qtopia.net work great :)
> >
> >
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Barry Steele
> hpfm solutions
> http://www.hpfm.com.au
> (o) +612 8206 1822
> (f) +612 9929 3653
> 
> Stay Happy, Stay Well, get involved...
> 
> 
> 
>     0n Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at 08:55:53AM +1000, Lorn Potter wrote: 
> 
>     >The neo does not come with a root filesystem, so you'll have to flash
one.
>     >For me, Qtopia images from qtopia.net work great :)
> 
> Ok, OpenMoko newb (waiting for FreeRunner release) - so bare with me.
> 
> Why would I use Qtopia images as opposed to OpenMoko images ?
> 
>  -aW
> 
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> 
> Wilkinson, Alex wrote:
> >     0n Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at 08:55:53AM +1000, Lorn Potter wrote: 
> > 
> >     >The neo does not come with a root filesystem, so you'll have to
flash one.
> >     >For me, Qtopia images from qtopia.net work great :)
> > 
> > Ok, OpenMoko newb (waiting for FreeRunner release) - so bare with me.
> > 
> > Why would I use Qtopia images as opposed to OpenMoko images ?
> > 
> 
> Well, I am a little biased, but Qtopia is a more mature and stable phone 
> software.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Lorn 'ljp' Potter
> Software Engineer, Systems Group, MES, Trolltech
> 
> 
> 
> Wilkinson, Alex wrote:
> 
> > 
> > IMPORTANT: This email remains the property of the Australian Defence
Organisation and is subject to the jurisdiction of section 70 of the CRIMES
ACT 1914.  If you have received this email in error, you are requested to
contact the sender and delete the email.
> 
> and besides, Qtopia is developed in Brisbane Australia :)
> 
> 
> -- 
> Lorn 'ljp' Potter
> Software Engineer, Systems Group, MES, Trolltech
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Michael Shiloh wrote:
> > Good question, Jeffrey, and you suggest a question that I'd like to ask 
> > you, the community:
> > 
> > Why do you chose to develop on OpenMoko, rather than on Android? Or do 
> > you do both?
> > 
> > (Beside the lack of Android hardware)
> > 
> > Michael
> 
> - OpenMoko is not only software, it's human being working on a hardware 
> + firmware + software.
> 
> Android or qtopia appears to me as "piece of software" for telephony 
> while openmoko and neo1973 seems to be more "close one another".
> 
> - It Seems to be more human-sized that google.
> - I hate java :-)
> - I prefers c to c++ ;-)
> - it is a debian spirit.
> - I really appreciated gpl (and less asl)
> 
> 
> - it was first discovered (more than 1 year)
> - Google begins to be "to much" (tomorrow's microsoft)
> 
> I do for nokia N810 too.
> 
> herv
> 
> 
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