not being able to use Skype is a big problem

[nickd]

Could this hackery mean that Android is a possibility?

-Nick

Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 20:56:43 -0500 "Forrest Sheng Bao" <forrest.bao at gmail.com>
> babbled:
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> they both use ARM. freerunner is armv4, n8xx is armv5. (think of it like a
> pentium vs pentium-mmx - it has extra instructions in v5 compared to v4, but
> the vast majority of the core is the same). it can be run.. if you are lucky
> that the compiled binary doesn't use them. you can always write binary shims to
> interface binaries to existing libraries and system. you can manually hex-edit
> the binary and replace the armv4 instructions with v4 ones (insert etc).
> hacking a binary is not something that hasn't been done before. it's been done
> so many times there are many people who think of it as an art form... it just
> may be a LOT of work. 
>
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>> I don't think one can run Skype for N8xx on Neo coz the CPU instruction set
>> is different. I am not sure whether TI OMAP, the CPU used in N8xx, uses ARM
>> instruction set.
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 8:25 PM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler <
>> raster at openmoko.org> wrote:
>>
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>>> On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 20:06:45 -0500 "Forrest Sheng Bao" <
>>> forrest.bao at gmail.com>
>>> babbled:
>>>
>>>       
>>>> Hey guys,
>>>>
>>>> I think not being about to use Skype on Neo is a big disadvantage. I
>>>>         
>>> don't
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>>>> have a cell phone. I contact the world thru Internet solely, including
>>>> watching TV series or telephone calls. I think OPenMoko is opener than
>>>> Nokia's Meamo project. But one can use Skype on Nokia N810. Will OpenMoko
>>>> consider asking Skype to develop the client for Neo?
>>>>         
>>> you do know nokia PAID skype significant money to develop skype for the
>>> n8xx?
>>> skype is not open. i would say OM has no intent to go pay money for someone
>>> else to develop a CLOSED piece of software for openmoko. OM is all about
>>> being
>>> open. skype is not all about being open. they just don't mix. if you want
>>> to
>>> somehow reverse-engineer skype's protocol details and write your own - feel
>>> free. also if you wish to somehow make the skype binaries for the n8xx work
>>> on
>>> OM - feel free to work at it and release your work, but OM, i seriously
>>> doubt,
>>> is going to lay down good money for a closed piece of software when there
>>> are
>>> plenty of open alternatives. :)
>>>
>>>       
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Forrest
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Forrest Sheng Bao
>>>> Ph.D. student, Dept. of Computer Science
>>>> M.Sc. student, Dept. of Electrical & Computer Engineering
>>>> Rm 115, Experimental Sciences Building
>>>> Texas Tech University, Lubbock, Texas, USA
>>>> http://narnia.cs.ttu.edu
>>>> 1-806-577-4592
>>>>
>>>> Forrest is an equal opportunity Email sender.
>>>> 1. You are encouraged to use the language you prefer. Beyond English, I
>>>>         
>>> can
>>>       
>>>> also read traditional/simplified Chinese and a bit German.
>>>> 2. I will only send you files readable to free or open source software.
>>>>
>>>>         
>>> --
>>> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <raster at openmoko.org>
>>>
>>>       
>>
>> -- 
>> Forrest Sheng Bao
>> Ph.D. student, Dept. of Computer Science
>> M.Sc. student, Dept. of Electrical & Computer Engineering
>> Rm 115, Experimental Sciences Building
>> Texas Tech University, Lubbock, Texas, USA
>> http://narnia.cs.ttu.edu
>> 1-806-577-4592
>>
>> Forrest is an equal opportunity Email sender.
>> 1. You are encouraged to use the language you prefer. Beyond English, I can
>> also read traditional/simplified Chinese and a bit German.
>> 2. I will only send you files readable to free or open source software.
>>
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