freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?

Sun Jul 6 03:35:21 CEST 2008

Arne,

   The problem looks like this. Lets say you are ATT and you field a new
SIM. Your test team will test
It against a pile of of old phones they have and the new ones they are
shipping. They cant test it
In future phones that don't exist. So, new phone and old SIM is not a 100%
solution. Further,
I cant test all the old ATT SIM. I simply don't have access to them. When
Michael ATT SIM didn't work
We had two theories. First was that Michael lived in an area that used to be
Cingular and that ATT had taken
Over from Cingular, perhaps causing some issues. The second theory. I had
friends who got iPhones and had to have
Their SIM updated. So, once michael got a new SIM the problems went away. 

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:community-bounces at lists.openmoko.org] On Behalf Of Arne Zachlod
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 6:34 AM
To: List for Openmoko community discussion
Subject: Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?

Hi all,
I get my new SIM today per post and it works fine. But I have to say- an
1.5 year old SIM card isn't old in my eyes!! that can't be the solution for
everyone- to get a new SIM, so you have to bring out a patch for this issue.
because most customers won't accept that they have to get (or buy) a new
sim-card. Even not when they recognise that older sim-cards work (oldest
card i have put in was a 8 years old 2G card).

bye, Arne

steve schrieb:
> Arne,
>
>   Getting a new SIM worked for us in the USA. When I talked to the ATT 
> people about it they admitted This was a common annoyance. Olds SIMS 
> not working in new phones, especially is the SIM was purchased In an 
> phone under contract.
>
>   
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: community-bounces at lists.openmoko.org
> [mailto:community-bounces at lists.openmoko.org] On Behalf Of Arne 
> Zachlod
> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 12:28 AM
> To: List for Openmoko community discussion
> Subject: Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?
>
> i don't think the card is the problem, but the freerunner. The card 
> works in all phones (3G and non3G) i have tried, excluding the FR, so 
> i think there HAVE to be a bug or something else, but no idea how to 
> find out what could be wrong.
> I asked my provider for a new card now and he said he will send me one. 
> Now i have to wait, but im not sure that this will help me.
>
> bye, Arne
>
>
> Michael Shiloh schrieb:
>   
>> Don't give up yet - let's try to gather some more information.
>>
>> If your card is more than a few months old it would be very 
>> interesting to try a new card on the very same contract. Would the 
>> provider be willing to exchange your card for a new one?
>>
>> Michael
>>
>> Arne Zachlod wrote:
>>   
>>     
>>> I have testes the non-3G e-plus SIM card form my girlfirend and it 
>>> works. i think the problem is with the 3G sim cards only, not with 
>>> the normal 2,5G Standartd-cards. or with some of the 3G-cards.
>>> really, i have no idea. in germany it is now around 9:00 AM so i 
>>> will go to a phone-shop now and ask there. i would have no problem 
>>> with changing the network, but the problem is that i would have to 
>>> wait for a half year until my actually contract get off (or what is 
>>> the english word for
>>> that?) and thats absoulutely too long, because i don't want to 
>>> change my telephone number. so the only option is finding the bug? 
>>> or getting a working SIM Card.
>>>
>>> Regards, Arne
>>>
>>>
>>> Michael Kluge schrieb:
>>>     
>>>       
>>>> Most probably. I am waiting for one too and will use it with a SIM 
>>>> card from SIMYO. It's a prepaid card, they charge for 1MB data 24 
>>>> Cent and use the e-plus network. I guess a few people with a 
>>>> freerunner have such a card as most other offers for data is more
>>>>         
> expensive.
>   
>>>> Michael
>>>>
>>>> Am Donnerstag, 3. Juli 2008 08:04:08 schrieb Michael Shiloh:
>>>>   
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>>>> Do we have any other Freerunners who are e-plus customers in Germany?
>>>>> Need to get some information here.
>>>>>
>>>>> Michael
>>>>>
>>>>> Arne Zachlod wrote:
>>>>>     
>>>>>         
>>>>>           
>>>>>> Hi Michael,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> my network provider is e-plus and i'm located in germany.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Arne
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Michael Shiloh schrieb:
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> Hi Arne,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Who is your network provider?
>>>>>>> Where are you located?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Michael?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Arne Zachlod wrote:
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>> Hej guys, I had got my today and i have tested it, but my 3G 
>>>>>>>> card doesn't function with it. he can't find a network and is 
>>>>>>>> unable to get the pin. (i have disabled pin with another phone, 
>>>>>>>> then there was only the problem that he doesn't find a network).
>>>>>>>> but with other SIM Cards form same provider there is no problem.
>>>>>>>> and other, non-3G-phones hasn't problem with this card, too.
>>>>>>>> i have no idea where i can find any informations. the gsm.log 
>>>>>>>> file doesn't exist and my gsm-firmware-version is moko8. So, my
>>>>>>>>                 
> question is:
>   
>>>>>>>> does anybody else has a problem with 3G Sim card?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thank you, Arne
>>>>>>>>
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