Number of GTA02s ordered as of 10 Jul 2008

Matthew Lane malane at purdue.edu
Thu Jul 10 22:33:42 CEST 2008


Dustin Knie wrote:
> Absolutely.  I'm hoping they post some sort of stats for the first few 
> days after shipping catches up. And based on the order numbers, i'm 
> leaning toward probably an intial run around 1500-2k.
>
> On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 11:12 AM, Francesco Cat 
> <heartcollector87 at gmail.com <mailto:heartcollector87 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     I must admit I am really courious about how many FRs will be sold
>     within the end of 2008. I really hope someone will tell us this
>     number, don't matter when :P
>
>     2008/7/10 Kevin Dean <kevin at foreverdean.info
>     <mailto:kevin at foreverdean.info>>:
>     > On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 12:36 PM, Ron K. Jeffries
>     <rjeffries at gmail.com <mailto:rjeffries at gmail.com>> wrote:
>     >
>     >> My gut says OpenMoko first mass production run was approx
>     >> 1,000 to 1,500.
>     >>
>     >
>     > I think you're dramatically low-balling it. You're basing that
>     on the
>     > number of phones ordered, but aren't factoring in the number shipped
>     > to resellers who have the item in stock but haven't sold it to a
>     > customer yet, the number in transit to those retailers and the
>     > distribution centers (one can assume that they're producing are
>     a rate
>     > faster than they're shipping to customers), the number put into
>     > people's hands as "test equipment" for major media outlets,
>     > universities and the like. I'm willing to bet that, like Koolu,
>     there
>     > are people or organizations with devices that aren't in end-user
>     hands
>     > yet - an Android based Freerunner like the W.E. Phone (for instance)
>     > doesn't exist yet, but it's safe to say they're developing it on
>     some
>     > form of hardware.
>     >
>     > Realistically speaking, the number of people with Freerunner's in
>     > their hands don't matter too much. The only reason I care at all
>     about
>     > how many devices Openmoko fabricated is to know if they're
>     generating
>     > revenue to be secure in a future product line. The number of devices
>     > produced doesn't correlate the the number of community members (one
>     > can assume there are device owners who will never join the OM
>     > community and that there are members without devices) and the number
>     > of users with devices doesn't correlate to Openmoko's profitability.
>     > Openmoko earns profit on devices that end up in closets and
>     warehouses
>     > just the same.
>     >
>     > And... A bit more bluntly... I think there's a reason that the sales
>     > figures haven't been released. :)
>     >
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On the where's my freerunner wiki page there are numbers in the 3000's, 
and you have to consider that many orders are 10-pack orders, so you're 
probably looking at something like 10% (guess?) orders are 10 packs.  
10% of 3000 = 300 x 10 = 3000 + 90% of 3000 = 5700 from the online 
shop.  Again, a complete guess ballpark figure, but it's something to 
think about.




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