AW: RE: unable to start up freerunner after batterie was full down

[Michael Shiloh]

For best effects you should do this on a table which can be raised to 
the ceiling, during a lightening storm :-)

Seriously, the goal is simply to provide 4.5VDC from some other source 
to allow the Freerunner to boot. A regulated adjustable power supply is 
an ideal source.

The tricky part is connecting the power supply to pins in the Freerunner 
which would contact the battery. You'll want a steady hand and you 
should be very clear on what you are doing.

I will write up the steps with pictures.

Michael

steve wrote:
>  
> Thanks jOerg
> 
> Michael can we get these instructions ( with pictures) on the wiki
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:community-bounces at lists.openmoko.org] On Behalf Of Joerg Reisenweber
> Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 5:55 PM
> To: community at lists.openmoko.org; linux4u at bluewin.ch
> Subject: Re: AW: RE: unable to start up freerunner after batterie was full
> down
> 
> No use in connecting a FR to any source to charge bat, as long as it doesn't
> boot up. Actually it drains battery even further, instead of charging.
> Battery is only charged when booting succeeds.
> Jumpstart the battery is very unlikely to help you out.
> 
> Get FR booted by any means
> 1.:Remove sim-card!
> 2.:Use wallcharger to startup. 
> 3:borrow battery, apply 4.5V (<5V!!!) to + and minus of battery connector in
> FR. 
> After 5~10sec FR should come up and you don't need startup-battery or
> 4.5V-power-source any more - remove it! FR should run happily from
> wallcharger.
> Now *don't* power down, and insert dead battery. battery is going to charge
> now.
> 
> Alternative way: find a charger for nokia-bat, or even use an old nokia to
> charge dead battery. e.g. 6230i. If you find a friend who could lend a
> battery to you, maybe he might prefer to take your bat and charge it for a
> short while.
> 
> sorry for the inconvenience. 
> Usually we shouldn't see "dead" batteries. We expect to fix the
> deep-discharge of bat at software side. 
> The problems with no startup on dead bat are partially a hw-issue. Though
> Werner has a new u-boot that might help (coming soon), especially when you
> got a device that flashes red aux-led (good sign!).
> 
> cheers
> jOERG
> 
> 
> Am So  13. Juli 2008 schrieb linux4u at bluewin.ch:
>> ok...I`ll wait for Michael`s explanation...
>> thx
>>
>> ----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----
>> Von: steve at openmoko.com
>> Datum: 13.07.2008 17:16
>> An: "List for Openmoko community 
>> discussion"<community at lists.openmoko.org>,
> <linux4u at bluewin.ch>
>> Kopie: "Michael Shiloh"<michael at openmoko.org>
>> Betreff: RE: unable to start up freerunner after batterie was full 
>> down
>>
>> If your battery falls below a certain level then FreeRunner sometimes 
>> will not charge it.
>>
>> We are working on fixes for this but in the short term you have these 
>> options.
>>
>>
>> 1. Jump start your battery. Michael will explain how, Takes 5 seconds.
>> 2. Get a stand alone battery charger from Nokia ( for battery types 
>> 4bl, 5bl, 6bl) 3. Get a replacement battery.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
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>> [mailto:community-bounces at lists.openmoko.org] On Behalf Of arne anka
>> Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 7:32 AM
>> To: linux4u at bluewin.ch; List for Openmoko community discussion
>> Subject: Re: unable to start up freerunner after batterie was full 
>> down
>>
>> while surfing the device-owners list i've stumbled over this:
>>
>>> Sometimes it happened (I think to all of us! ;) ) that NEO1973's 
>>> battery goesfully discharged, and for this I follow the instruction 
>>> on the wiki pages(detach battery 20 seconds, attach to USB, wait 1 
>>> hour, start the Phone).
>> anyway -- the guy posting this seemed to have killed his battery (not 
>> finished the thread yet).
>> regarding you usb-only: maybe your usb port does not supply 500mAh?
>>
>> btw: your leds flash? mine do nothing -- is this related to the asu image?
>>
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