In the press. "The OpenMoko wiki - a tangled pile of mostlyoutdated and incomplete documentation."

[matt joyce]

Yes.
http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-July/022628.html


Josh Monson wrote:
> Has the list been created? The wiki-editors mailing list?
>
> Michael/Brenda,
> Is there any type of organizational plan at this point in terms of whom
> will be doing what, and will Brenda be coordinating the efforts I
> assume?
> I know this has all come up very quickly so it's totally understandable
> if there is no plan as of yet :P. Just trying to get coordination
> rolling.
>
> Cheers and thanks again
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: community-bounces at lists.openmoko.org
> [mailto:community-bounces at lists.openmoko.org] On Behalf Of steve
> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 6:24 PM
> To: 'Steven **'; 'List for Openmoko community discussion'
> Cc: 'Brenda Wang'
> Subject: RE: In the press. "The OpenMoko wiki - a tangled pile of
> mostlyoutdated and incomplete documentation."
>
> The issue is the wiki grows like a weed. On one hand this is great since
> information just get posted.
> On the other hand this rhapsodic construction is difficult to navigate. 
>
> So... Solutions welcomed. 
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: montgoss at gmail.com [mailto:montgoss at gmail.com] On Behalf Of Steven
> **
> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 1:29 PM
> To: List for Openmoko community discussion
> Cc: Brenda Wang; steve
> Subject: Re: In the press. "The OpenMoko wiki - a tangled pile of mostly
> outdated and incomplete documentation."
>
> I'll tell you explicitly.  Go ahead.  It's a wiki!  If anyone doesn't
> like
> your change, they can easily see the history and revert it.  Or just
> clean
> up your change however they like.  That's what makes the wiki so
> powerful.
>
> If they didn't want you to edit it, I'm pretty sure they could lock it
> down
> so that you can't.  The fact that they haven't seems to mean they aren't
> worried "regular" users might edit it.
>
> -Steven
>
> On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 3:19 PM, Stroller
> <stroller at stellar.eclipse.co.uk>
> wrote:
>   
>> Hi there,
>>
>> I thought to try fixing a small part of this particular problem by 
>> editing the main page & adding a link to http://wiki.openmoko.org/ 
>> wiki/Distributions
>>
>> But I do not see where to put it! Perhaps it should replace the 
>> "Current software stack" link to http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/ 
>> NeoSoftwareStack ??
>>
>> Perhaps these 5 categories:
>>   Introduction to Openmoko
>>   Openmoko Products
>>   Join Openmoko development
>>   Openmoko community
>>   Getting started with Openmoko Wiki
>> should be extended with the addition of "Openmoko software"?
>>
>> Or perhaps I should just get my hands dirty and change the 
>> "Introduction to Openmoko" to include the link to "Distributions"? As 
>> a user I feel reluctant to edit the main page as I feel it "belongs"
>> to Openmoko the company or to Brenda, so you must tell me explicitly 
>> if you wish me to feel free.
>>
>> Stroller.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 17 Jul 2008, at 20:00, steve wrote:
>>
>>     
>>> Brenda
>>>
>>>   The main page index does not address Scotts issue.
>>>
>>>   I second scott's criticism of the wiki. It is not organized well.
>>>
>>>   A good start would be a better search engine
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: community-bounces at lists.openmoko.org
>>> [mailto:community-bounces at lists.openmoko.org] On Behalf Of Brenda 
>>> Wang
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 6:56 AM
>>> To: scott at tnstaafl.net; List for Openmoko community discussion
>>> Subject: Re: In the press. "The OpenMoko wiki - a tangled pile of 
>>> mostly outdated and incomplete documentation."
>>>
>>> Hi, I am wiki full time editor of Openmoko.
>>> Thank you for your opinion . I will put more effort , to make wiki 
>>> more easy to use.
>>> And now , If you want to know what we have on wiki , Please use this 
>>> Index page.
>>> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Main_Page
>>>
>>> Brenda
>>>
>>> Scott Derrick ??:
>>>       
>>>> Perhaps this is what you seek?
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Distributions
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>> This is a great page, one of the gems hidden in the bowels of the OM
>>>>         
>
>   
>>>> Wiki.
>>>>
>>>> Its also a great example of whats wrong with the Wiki.
>>>>
>>>> But how do I find it?  Its not listed on the home page,  not on the
>>>> FreeRunner page,  not on the getting started page?    Unless I
>>>>         
> search
>   
>>>> for exactly teh right word or combinations of words I would never 
>>>> know it existed... The only link I could find, after I knew it 
>>>> existed was Software/distributions/distributions..
>>>>
>>>> There has to be some kind of boiler plate format for the design and 
>>>> layout of the Wiki so things are easier to find. You can't rely on 
>>>> the search engine, it sucks..
>>>>
>>>> I think that was the point of the person who recommended the OpenWRT
>>>>         
>
>   
>>>> Wiki.  Its design and format was easy to use and helped you find 
>>>> things instead of thwarting you.
>>>>
>>>> Scott
>>>>
>>>>         
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