community Digest, Vol 88, Issue 164

Charles Hill charles.e.hill at gmail.com
Sun Jul 20 23:04:14 CEST 2008


I am using the phone for daily use and do not have problems with placing or
receiving calls, nor sending or receiving SMS messages.

 Charles

On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 3:27 PM, david pais <davioh2001 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> is this phone usable for daily light phone use (about 30-60 min/ day) or
> have the audio problems not been solved?
>
>
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> > Date: Sunday, July 20, 2008, 3:45 PM
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> >    1. Re: Import Contacts (Roland Mas)
> >    2. Re: Special Letters? (doron)
> >    3. Re: Another Question - Kernel Headers (Andy Green)
> >    4. RE: AW: RE: unable to start up freerunner after
> > batterie was
> >       full down (steve)
> >    5. Re: Another Question - Kernel Headers (Joseph Reeves)
> >    6. RE: Can you help the Openmoko booth at Linuxworld,
> > August
> >       4-7,    in SanFrancisco? (steve)
> >    7. Re: USB connector not Mini-AB? (Tobias Diedrich)
> >    8. Re: Import Contacts (Jeffrey Ratcliffe)
> >    9. Re: Another Question - Kernel Headers (arne
> > anka)Jeffrey Ratcliffe, 2008-07-20 20:13:29 +0200 :
> >
> > > I have the same problem, and additionally, the dump
> > option runs
> > > without error, but also without output.
> >
> > I just tried again, and I managed to get these symptoms
> > when running
> > the script too soon after a boot.  The second run went on
> > fine.  Maybe
> > something needs the daemon to be started, and it's not
> > started
> > initially...
> >
> > Roland.
> > --
> > Roland Mas
> >
> > Au royaume des aveugles, il y a des borgnes à ne pas
> > dépasser.
> >   -- in Soeur Marie-Thérèse des Batignolles
> > (Maëster)Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> >
> > > On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 16:18:37 +0200 Roland Mas
> > <lolando at debian.org> babbled:
> > >
> > >
> > >> arne anka, 2008-07-20 16:01:34 +0200 :
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> sadly enough i currently have no clue what
> > causes the lack of
> > >>> anything non-ascii, would have expected he fr
> > to be unicode driven.
> > >>>
> > >> I think it is Unicode driven.  My contacts have
> > some non-ascii
> > >> characters in their names, and they display just
> > fine.  I guess the
> > >> problem is mostly the input method.
> > >>
> > >
> > > in ASU (not in current .dev build though, but in SVN
> > for illume) the keyboard
> > > layout is customisable via a config file and can
> > produce any keystroke that x
> > > is capable of (so it can produce ä, ó, ñ, ø etc.)
> > but i don't have a layout
> > > that has every one of these in it currently, but
> > it's a simple text file to put
> > > in a directory (.kbd file). for now it has 3 layouts,
> > simply letters-only
> > > qwerty, "numeric" that covers the other keys
> > (numbers, symbols) and a few
> > > accented chars, and a full qwerty layout (ok it is
> > missing F1-F12, Pause/Break
> > > and PrtSc/SysRq but ... if u really want u can try
> > cram them in somehow...). i
> > > will add anther key layout for "intl" chars
> > (accented ones etc.).
> > >
> > > in the end i imagine people might do custom layouts
> > for a language (eg german
> > > would only have ä, ö, ü and ß). romainian some
> > other set, danish another set.
> > > etc. nice simple text files for everyone to enjoy :)
> > this should allo for a
> > > greek and russian layout too, katakana/hragana,
> > hangul, thai, ... anything
> > > really. but right now right-to-left languages wont
> > work (well)
> > > (arabic/farsi/hebrew). unfortunatly that is really
> > near the bottom of my list...
> > >
> > >
> > I am using the 2007.2 ( and the qtopia image, from SD card)
> > image and I
> > am using Hebrew in my FreeRunner (include right - to -left)
> > read and write.
> >
> > in the qtopia image I can read Hebrew SMS massages
> > (right-to- left) but
> > I didn't try to change / re-map the keyboard to Hebrew
> > .
> >
> > works fine for me.
> >
> > - doron
> >
> >
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> >
> > Somebody in the thread at some point said:
> > | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian
> > |
> > | ?
> >
> > Awesome, nobody ever mentioned this marvel... got to give
> > this a try
> > tonight!
> >
> > - -Andy
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> >
> >  Micheal jump started my battery in about 2 seconds. It was
> > a Young
> > Frankenstein momement!
> >  Without the sparks or pretty assistents. Anyways, my
> > reanimated battery
> > still works fine.
> >
> >  Anecdotal I know.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: community-bounces at lists.openmoko.org
> > [mailto:community-bounces at lists.openmoko.org] On Behalf Of
> > Michael Shiloh
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 12:44 PM
> > To: Joerg Reisenweber
> > Cc: community at lists.openmoko.org; linux4u at bluewin.ch
> > Subject: Re: AW: RE: unable to start up freerunner after
> > batterie was full
> > down
> >
> >
> >
> > Joerg Reisenweber wrote:
> > > Am Mi  16. Juli 2008 schrieb Michael Shiloh:
> > >> Joerg Reisenweber wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Jumpstart the battery is very unlikely to help
> > you out.
> > >>>
> > >> Joerg, can you explain this further?
> > >>
> > >> I've actually had excellent luck jump-starting
> > the battery. I set my
> > >> adjustable power supply at about 4.5V and I
> > connect it directly to
> > >> the battery terminals for just a second, then
> > measure the voltage on
> > >> the battery. If the battery voltage is still zero,
> > I repeat. Usually
> > >> after a few "shocks" the battery comes
> > out of its internal under-voltage
> > protection.
> > >>
> > >> I understand that GTA01 batteries have no
> > hysteresis and need just
> > >> one "shock" (in fact Werner said
> > "one electron" I think) to come out
> > >> of under-voltage protection. I understand that
> > GTA02 batteries have
> > >> hysteresis and require more coulombs injected
> > before they will recover.
> > >
> > > I'm just suspicious a shock-reanimated battery
> > holds enough power
> > > (=voltage) to bring us over the boot gap, and
> > won't activate
> > > protection again just in no-time when we try to pull
> > energy. That's
> > > all. Of course you can shockstart battery out of
> > protect-mode, no
> > > doubt. But did you get a boot with such a bat?
> >
> >
> > I thought so, yes, but I'll check again to verify.
> >
> > Michael
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Openmoko community mailing list
> > community at lists.openmoko.org
> > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/communityJosch
> > won the community member of the month (week) in March for
> > getting it working:
> >
> > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Member_of_the_Week
> >
> > Not that this really helps the OP, who seemingly knew about
> > this already ;-)
> >
> > Joseph
> >
> >
> >
> > 2008/7/20 Andy Green <andy at openmoko.com>:
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> > > Somebody in the thread at some point said:
> > > | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian
> > > |
> > > | ?
> > >
> > > Awesome, nobody ever mentioned this marvel... got to
> > give this a try
> > > tonight!
> > >
> > > - -Andy
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> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Openmoko community mailing list
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> > >The T shirts are planned, and I need to know how many
> > debug boards and
> > spares kits
> > I need to pick up from Fremont to give away to volunteers.
> >
> > And pat needs firm commitments to build a schedule.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: community-bounces at lists.openmoko.org
> > [mailto:community-bounces at lists.openmoko.org] On Behalf Of
> > Michael Shiloh
> > Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 1:52 PM
> > To: List for OpenMoko community discussion
> > Subject: Can you help the Openmoko booth at Linuxworld,
> > August 4-7, in
> > SanFrancisco?
> >
> > Openmoko will be at Linuxworld, and needs to staff two
> > booths: One in the
> > main vendor area, and another in the Linux Garage.
> >
> > As we are a small understaffed team, we would love it if
> > some of you could
> > commit to helping us.
> >
> > If you are on this mailing list, you already know enough to
> > answer the most
> > common question: "What is Openmoko?".
> >
> > As for more technical questions, don't worry - you
> > already know a lot, and
> > you can always defer questions to one of us.
> >
> > In return we plan some sort of appreciation, perhaps in the
> > form of T-shirts
> > or some other Openmoko swag, and you will be the proud
> > owner of our undying
> > gratitude :-) You will also be able to ask Steve all those
> > difficult
> > questions you've been saving up.
> >
> > It's also a great opportunity for us to get to know
> > you, no matter how much
> > or little time you can commit to helping.
> >
> > LinuxWorld is August 4-7, in San Francisco.
> >
> > Please let me know right away so that I can arrange for
> > badges.
> >
> > Passes for the exhibit hall are free! Register at
> > http://www.linuxworldexpo.com/live/12/register//SN335015
> >
> > If there is interest we will also hold a BoF session.
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Openmoko community mailing list
> > community at lists.openmoko.org
> > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/communityTorfinn
> > Ingolfsen wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > 2008/7/19 Tobias Diedrich
> > <ranma+openmoko at tdiedrich.de <ranma%2Bopenmoko at tdiedrich.de>>:
> > > > Looking at the Freerunner connector, it looks
> > like it's really a
> > > > Mini-B Female connector instead of the Mini-AB
> > Female connector as
> > > > stated on
> > > >
> > http://www.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_GTA02_Hardware
> > > >
> > > > Can someone else confirm this?
> > >
> > > Yes. See
> > >
> >
> http://www.openmoko.org/wiki/Getting_Started_with_your_Neo_FreeRunner#Package_Contents
> >
> > Well, that doesn't contradict with a Mini-AB female
> > connector though.
> > As it's name says a Mini-AB femal connector should
> > accept both
> > Mini-A and Mini-B cables, which makes sense because Mini-B
> > is used
> > for client mode and Mini-A for host mode and the Freerunner
> > supports
> > both.
> >
> > The wrong connector means that an 'offical' USB-OTG
> > cable like
> >
> http://www.amazon.de/Hama-00074214-OTG-Kabeladapter-Mini-USB-A-Stecker-USB-A-Kupplung/dp/B000EORX7U/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=ce-de&qid=1216581564&sr=8-1
> > can't be used unfortunately...
> >
> > And I can't find a USB-A receptacle to Mini-USB-A plug
> > cable on amazon. :/
> > Only this plug-adapter (maybe, it does not explicitly state
> > A or B
> > AFAICS), which will work I guess, but I'd rather like a
> > cable.
> >
> http://www.amazon.de/Adapter-BUCHSE-Stecker-Verl%C3%A4ngerung-Anschluss/dp/B001372BVA/ref=sr_1_44?ie=UTF8&s=ce-de&qid=1216581654&sr=8-44
> > Seems like I'll have to cannibalize the Hama cable.
> > ^_^;
> >
> > --
> > Tobias                                                PGP:
> http://9ac7e0bc.uguu.de
> > このメールは十割再利用されたビットで作られています。2008/7/20
> > Roland Mas <lolando at debian.org>:
> > > I just tried again, and I managed to get these
> > symptoms when running
> > > the script too soon after a boot.  The second run went
> > on fine.  Maybe
> > > something needs the daemon to be started, and it's
> > not started
> > > initially...
> >
> > OK. A reboot got this working.
> >
> > Does this mean the dbus daemon has to be restarted between
> > changes
> > file-side/GUI-side and your script?
> >
> > I started out by making the mistake of copying my Evolution
> > db across...
> >
> > I'll do some testing.
> >
> > Presumably people have started thinking about syncing
> > Thunderbird and
> > Evolution with OM?
> >
> > Jeff> Awesome, nobody ever mentioned this marvel... got
> > to give this a try
> > > tonight!
> >
> > let us know how it turned
> > out!_______________________________________________
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