Openmoko on Design

Jacob Peterson jacobp at iastate.edu
Thu Jul 31 12:36:40 CEST 2008


On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 4:27 AM, Ken Restivo <ken at restivo.org> wrote:

> On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 11:38:07AM +0800, John Lee wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 01:47:29AM +0100, Al Johnson wrote:
> > > I'll snip most of it to keep the length reasonable.
> >
> > same here :)
> >
> > > On Tuesday 29 July 2008, William Lai wrote:
> > > >
> > > > It already is.
> > > > We've offered a couple of different solutions to community requests
> that
> > > > were declined by, well, engineering.  One of them was:
> > > >
> > > > * create a package to be installed through installer adding manual
> > > > qwerty button to illume theme.
> > >
> > > The only suggestion I remember was that the community fork illume. Is
> this a
> > > different take on the same suggestion, or a different suggestion? What
> was
> > > the other option? And what was the objection to providing it as a
> > > configuration option with the default being off, as proposed on this
> list?
> >
> >
> > What we are trying to do:
> >
> > provide a OM repository and a community repository.  in this
> > particular case, if in the end the illume still shipped without kbd
> > button, then the community will very likely provide another version of
> > illume called illume-kbd in the community repository.  thus you can
> > replace the shipped illume with illume-kbd, and the next upgrade will
> > get the new version of illume-kbd instead of illume, so you don't need
> > to change it again after upgrade.
> >
> >
> > Where we are right at the moment:
> >
> > illume is there.
> >
> > the community repository is not ready yet but we're working on it.
> >
> > the dependency handling of replacing the shipped illume with
> > illume-kbd is not ready yet but we're working on it.
> >
> >
> > My personal comment on this:
> >
> > if the illume is so much more popular then illume-kdb (theoretically
> > we can know that from the repository log) or the other way around then
> > you bet that fact will be very effective in OM.  ;)
> >
>
> I bought the FreeRunner in order to:
>
> 1) Use for remote system administration, via a terminal and onscreen
> keyboards, via SSH over WiFi and GPRS.
> 2) Browse the web via WiFi and/or GPRS
> 3) Read/write email using some kind of IMAP mail app, and send/recieve SMS
> 4) Make and receive calls via VOIP and GSM
> 5) Play media (Vorbis, MP3, FLV's, MP4's) and record audio
> 6) Write a custom touchscreen UI app for a linux-based music synthesizer
> (connecting to the synth via Bluetooth)
> 7) Maybe run some simple synth applications on the FR, using the USB host
> mode to connect it to a MIDI keyboard.
>
> So far, not even the first 5 of those are complete and reliable enough for
> me to actually use without hassle, and based on what I've read here, I'm
> estimating about 2 years before they are.
>

2 years?  At the rate I am seeing progress, I would bet closer to two
months, as it seems the ASU and eventual FSO images are coming along quite
nicely.


>
> In the meantime, however,  I've realized that I can probably get through
> the rest of my life happily without *any* of the above features, and I
> should have waited a few more years before spending so much money.
>
> -ken
>
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