QVGA V/s VGA for GTA03 - product management, features & assumptions

[David Samblas Martinez]

me too


--- El mar, 10/6/08, Robert Taylor <robtaylor at tinsputnik.com> escribió:

> De: Robert Taylor <robtaylor at tinsputnik.com>
> Asunto: Re: QVGA V/s VGA for GTA03 - product management, features & assumptions
> Para: "List for Openmoko community discussion" <community at lists.openmoko.org>
> Fecha: martes, 10 junio, 2008 9:49
> Ortwin Regel wrote:
> >>
> >> Reading these posts of the last few days it has
> just occurred to me
> >> that it's not Carsten we should be beating up
> on here.
> >> Who the heck asked for translucency and flashy
> animations?
> >>
> >> Management seem to be asking for this
> "alpha" bleeding rubbish, and
> >> it seems to me that we users need to be telling
> management that we
> >> don't care a heck for it.
> >>
> >> Sure, I know the iPhone does this now, but that
> doesn't mean Openmoko
> >> has to do it. Do we really want Openmoko to be
> just another iPhone
> >> clone? I know we see a fair number of posts on
> here about the iPhone,
> >> but surely that's just a result of the current
> buzz - is UI animation
> >> really a *necessity* in the long-term (or
> medium-term) future of the
> >> mobile phone market?
> >>
> >> DISCLAIMER: I haven't used an iPhone, and
> I'm not terribly interested
> >> in it. I do use a Mac as my main desktop, but
> that's not for the
> >> animation, it's because I want something that
> "just works" when I sit
> >> down at my computer. All us Mac fans found Expose
> to be a *massive*
> >> UI improvement when it was released, but
> that's because virtual
> >> desktops have always been rubbish on a Mac - with
> so many windows on
> >> a single desktop *some* way of finding the
> bottom-most one was
> >> required. The other day I was talking to a Linux
> developer who turned
> >> off compiz on his desktop because it slowed down
> his productivity -
> >> you simply don't need Expose if you have
> virtual desktops (which
> >> admittedly are not suitable for my granny).
> >>
> >> It seems to me that, whilst the iPhone's
> animation may "wow" people,
> >> what really distinguishes the iPhone is the same
> attention to UI
> >> simplicity that Apple have always brought to their
> products. It does
> >> a FEW things amazingly well, and that's where
> it separates itself
> >> from the majority of phones on the market, none of
> which *quite* suit
> >> the mass-market of users. Most users don't
> want to understand the
> >> filesystem on their mobile phone, so Apple do away
> with it; Apple
> >> have made it spectacularly easy (so much so that
> one must include in
> >> the discussion the word "intuitive") to
> email a photo taken on the
> >> camera or grabbed from a webpage, but they make it
> impossible to
> >> email attachments under many other circumstances.
> The majority of
> >> users don't want to copy & paste text on
> their mobile phones, so
> >> Apple just got rid of it - other manufacturers
> "muddy up" the phones
> >> they aim at girls and little old ladies (excuse
> me) by including the
> >> ability to copy & paste; Apple have realised
> that only a minority of
> >> business-phone users want or need that.
> >>
> >> The Neo & Freerunner have both been
> "smartphones", and that's surely
> >> the interest that draws Linux users to this list.
> We want to be able
> >> to shell into our unix servers, read PDFs and so
> on. The idea of an
> >> open phone fires our imagination because we can
> integrate our
> >> contacts from our LDAP servers and our diary with
> an iCal server, we
> >> can do whatever the heck we want with Openmoko -
> we want to ADD
> >> features, not remove them.
> >>
> >> In the context of that, does animation and
> transparency matter? Heck
> >> no! We want a phone that displays text & icons
> on the screen, and as
> >> long as the phone does that quick enough, we
> don't want you wasting
> >> resources on trying to make the
> "experience" more flashy.
> >>
> >> There has been mention in these threads about the
> screen requirements
> >> of smaller phones. I can only conclude from this
> that FIC are
> >> planning to leverage their experience in building
> smartphone hardware
> >> in order to break into to the larger market of
> small "girlie" and
> >> "soccer mom" phones. Fine, but please
> don't do this at the expense of
> >> your smartphone market. Honestly, I don't see
> how you can do this
> >> well, without castrating your power-phone
> offerings.
> >>
> >> Parts of this conversation have focussed on making
> a "use case" for
> >> VGA screens, but please, FIC management, make a
> use case for
> >> transparency and flashy animations before having
> Carsten work on it.
> >> Whilst I was writing an Apple spam arrived here,
> promoting today's
> >> new iPhone announcement - I clicked on the link to
> iSteve's
> >> presentation. The "enterprise" take-up
> from Fortune 500 companies was
> >> surely impressive, but this leverage is because of
> Exchange-
> >> compatibility and all the features that OS X gives
> to the iPhone for
> >> free, not the flashy animations. This is where
> Openmoko can compete.
> >>
> >> I could write a lot, LOT more here,
> >>
> >> Stroller.
> >>
> >>     
> I second this.
> 
> Rob
> 
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