OM IDE (was: Re: Common Lisp for OM (Was: Programming OM))

[Lally Singh]

Latest one as of maybe a month ago.  NB 6.1 is pretty fast now.   What
I don't like about eclipse isn't stuff that changes overnight.

And again, I don't spend my time compensating for eclipse being
stupid.  I used to write plugins/compilers for eclipse, it's even
worse on the inside.

Feel free to use my stuff for an eclipse port!  The NB stuff is
(AFAIK, haven't started fiddling with it yet) all swing, which you can
wrap in SWT and put on eclipse.

On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 2:05 PM, Crane, Matthew <mcrane03 at harris.com> wrote:
>
>  Which eclipse version were you using?  I think in the past, like 2y ago,
>  it was buggier. I'd say it's pretty solid these days.  And it's way
>  faster.
>
>
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> Subject: Re: OM IDE (was: Re: Common Lisp for OM (Was: Programming OM))
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>
>  Eclipse has a faster widget toolkit, but it tends to be a lot buggier
>  & dumber about a lot of things.  You end up spending a lot more time
>  fiddling with it to work right than NB.
>
>  The tradeoff w/NB is that it tends to do the right thing, but is
>  slower.  Definitely so on my mac, but the speed difference on Solaris
>  isn't noticeable on my opteron sun box.  Also, it comes with some
>  stuff that you have to get separately (sometimes at cost, or with a
>  annoyware freeware version) for eclipse.  UML editing comes to mind.
>
>  On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 1:06 PM, Crane, Matthew <mcrane03 at harris.com>
>  wrote:
>  >
>  >  What's wrong with Eclipse?  It's much more common for embedded IDE's
>  >  isn't it?
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >  -----Original Message-----
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>  >  [mailto:community-bounces at lists.openmoko.org] On Behalf Of Lally
>  Singh
>  >  Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 12:08 PM
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>  >  Subject: OM IDE (was: Re: Common Lisp for OM (Was: Programming OM))
>  >
>  >
>  >  Nah, I'd been planning on getting haskell up for OM.  They already
>  >  have a basic ARM target for ghc, and there's already a haskell->GTK
>  >  mapping.
>  >
>  >  But, now that we're talking about development environments,  who'd be
>  >  interested in using an IDE for developing OM?
>  >
>  >  I was thinking about putting together a Netbeans plugin to dev for
>  it.
>  >   I'm wondering:
>  >  1. anyone want to use such a thing?
>  >  2. anyone wanna help?
>  >
>  >  I'll be using Mac OS X & solaris personally (probably more of the
>  >  latter), but if someone'd be up for testing it on Linux, I'd be happy
>  >  to support that too.  A nice little basis to create wizards for all
>  >  kinds of OM applications, plugins, etc. sounds like good community
>  >  open-source fun.
>  >
>  >  I'd consider this my first big contribution to OM, so I'm happy to do
>  >  it.
>  >
>  >  Please, no religious wars on Java/NetBeans, etc.  Feel free to use
>  the
>  >  work for your own desires after, but I've been through enough dev
>  >  cycles on other platforms that I'm feeling pretty firm on this.
>  >
>  >  If you say 'Eclipse', I'm going to traceroute you from a cell modem
>  in
>  >  my car, and bring a baseball bat with me.
>  >
>  >  On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 10:32 AM, Oliver Uvman
>  <oliver.uvman at gmail.com>
>  >  wrote:
>  >  > Jesus! I thought I was the only one wanting to program CL on the
>  OM.
>  >  >  I've had lots of interesting ideas on how to use a gesture-based
>  >  >  interface for writing CL, which could work only thanks to the
>  sparse
>  >  >  syntax, and plan to make that some of the first things I program
>  for
>  >  >  my OM. Hooray!
>  >  >
>  >  >  /Oliver Uvman
>  >  >
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>  >  Virginia Tech
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H. Lally Singh
Ph.D. Candidate, Computer Science
Virginia Tech