Qtopia Vs. GTK

[Michele Renda]

I quote you!

Bobby Martin wrote:Hugo Mills wrote:
> On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 12:43:46PM +0100, Alastair Johnson wrote:
>   
>>> On 22 May 2008, at 22:29, Hugo Mills wrote:
>>>
>>>       
>>>> On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 05:05:47PM +0100, Alastair Johnson wrote:
>>>>         
>>>>> I was going to post this under the European Distribution thread
>>>>> but it seems to have drifted off topic. Shameless self-promotion
>>>>> follows...
>>>>>
>>>>> We will be selling the Freerunner in the UK. The details are still
>>>>> being worked out, but if you register we will keep you updated as
>>>>> things change.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.truebox.co.uk/trueboxportal/index.php?wk=OpenMoko
>>>>>           
>>>>    One thing that's unclear is whether the European distributors, such
>>>> as yourselves, will be selling the 10-packs as well as single phones,
>>>> or whether those are only coming from OpenMoko in the USA. Are you
>>>> able to give an answer to this question at this point?
>>>>         
>> Things are unclear at the moment, as you say. When we have some
>> solid details we will post an update. In the meantime I would rather
>> not speculate.
>>     
>
>    That's good. I'd rather see this kind of answer than "oh yes, it's
> all fine", and then be disappointed later. I'll go back to lurking in
> my darkened corner again now and await further news...
>
>    Thanks,
>    Hugo.
>
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>     From: Tilman Baumann <tilman at baumann.name
>     <mailto:tilman at baumann.name>>
>     Michele Renda wrote:
>
>         Hi Tilman
>
>         I think they prefered to use an existent project, because they
>         need something running and to concentrate their energy to
>         hardware part. They want to concentrate to the project of
>         hardware, not in GUI writing.
>
>     Openmoko is a Software project.
>     The software is the only thing that helps to make this 1990ies
>     like piece of hardware cool.
>
>         According me is a good idea to reuse the software wrote by
>         other people. In every case the software previously written in
>         not trashed. It is released with open licences and it can be
>         implemented by someone who hate too much Qtopia.
>
>     Hope so. The problem is that the community has little resources.
>     Dividing these resources does not sound like a good idea.
>     And i cant's see how it helpes to throw most of the good work away.
>     (Ok, some was crap. But nothing beyond repair)
>     I think this will piss of developers.
>     And users.
>
>     Openmoko turned into a nice mobile computing platform with a very
>     technocratic view on things.
>     This is a feature. I would say, _the_ feature.
>
>
> First, I just want to disagree loudly about the preferred apps.  I 
> much prefer QTopia personally for most of the standard "phone"
> apps.  They are much more polished, primarily due to being much 
> older.  For example, being able to mute the ringer on my phone
> without going into terminal and moving the audio file is nice ;-)
>
> It sounds to me as if the new direction for OM is to play the 'open' 
> card a lot more.  Everything is intended to give you more
> choice.  I think it was a great business decision on OM's part to do 
> the work to get QTopia in their software stack, and
> make it the initial suite of phone apps.  Lots of great work has been 
> done on QTopia, and it makes sense to take advantage
> of it.
>
> That doesn't mean the old apps are gone - people who like them better 
> can continue to develop them and install them, and
> can build an "OpenMoko classic" release even if OM decides to drop 
> them completely.  That's the beauty of open source...
>
>
>
>     And the gsm stuff? Does this mean we now use the qtpia gsm stack?
>     letting gsmd die would probably one of the better ideas. But i
>     rather like so see it replaced by something similar but working
>     instead of a set of qt apis.
>
>
> I thought it had been pretty clearly indicated that the dbus 
> interfaces Mickey Laurer & company are building are the new
> direction for access to all of the back-end services.  I have no idea 
> how that integrates with QTopia, though, if at all.  I would
> think it's far more likely that OM will make QTopia support the dbus 
> interfaces than them dropping the dbus interfaces, though.
>
>
>     Is there any place where to look which back end functionalities
>     will change?
>     Like evolution data server, dbus apis, gsmd, PhoneKit and such...
>
>     Well, we will see...
>     I should better keep my mouth shut and wait until there are GTA01
>     builds.
>
>     Regards
>      Tilman
>
>
> If you really want a hacker's phone, I would think something like the 
> Zad or zhone stack are more for you.
>
> I'm hoping that one or both of those can live alongside the official 
> OM release, so I can use QTopia when
> I'm wanting a simple, reliable phone interface and use Zad or zhone 
> when I want something I can hack to
> do the really cool stuff.
>
> BTW, regarding FIC being 1990s phone hw... I must have really missed 
> something in the 90's.  I knew
> the US was behind as far as cell phones go, but I had no idea one 
> could buy a phone with full bluetooth,
> wifi, GPS, usb and 640x480 touchscreen support in the 90s anywhere in 
> the world.
>
> Bobby
>
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