[OffTopic]Geek'sPhone: New android actor?

[GNUtoo]

On Mon, 2009-11-09 at 21:34 +0100, David Lanzendörfer wrote:
> Would be nice, if it could become a new development platform for OM/SHR too.
> 
> Are there some development boards to get?
> 
> With JTAG interface and so on?
> 
> And a documentation for writing free drivers for the linux kernel?
> 
> Using android kernel is not an option, because they put the mostpart of theire 
> drivers into the apache licensed userspace. In binary format.
> 
> So the basic idea of opensource handies is died in android, because the linux 
> kernel cant support the hardware on its own, theres alway a binary compatible 
> android userspace needed to have the devices working properly.
> 
> I hope, if they call theire phone "geeky" then they are also open to sell 
> developmentboards and documentation.
> If they dont. Then the word geeky is a lie and we could even call a htc-raph 
> or other windows-ce generation handies geeky.
> Then we can call every ** smartphone geeky. Because they are all hackable in 
> someway...
> 
> So please ask them to inform about development boards on theire page.
> They dont have to make UMTS/GSM open, its clear that they cant, but the rest 
> of the pcb and schematics they could give us in a documentation, so that some 
> smart linux kernel hackers could write some drivers in the propriate section 
> (Board, CPU, Devices)
> 
> Something which the Android developers didnt manage to do either.
> Theire drivers are sooo ugly.
> This time, the development should start from our site.
> Linux shouldnt have only BIOS function, but should have the user and kernel 
> space consequently separated.
> Lets do it on our own, an we are sure, that it will be respected.
> We can certainly do it better then proprietary enterprises and google.
> 
> regards leviathan
If you are looking for such phone maybe the htcdream(I know you're doing
some work on the htcdream)is not a good option(but it's great if you
want to learn about the internals...because there is some work to do)
Some candidates are:
*Omap Zoom II ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OmapZoom )
*Exeda mobile ( http://www.exedamobile.com/web/ )
*The flow
( http://www.gizmoforyou.com/e107_plugins/content/content.php?content.32 )
*future openmoko phones(like gta02-core and/or the one from the
University of São Paulo in Brasil )

Maybe there are others that I have forgotten.

The palm pre is a different case as the modem doesn't fully work yet
( http://www.freesmartphone.org/index.php/Palm_Pre_Challenge )

Denis.