cellhunter - openbmap - opencellid revisited... (was Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server)

[Thomas Landspurg]

  Hello Risto,

  Here is a few facts from such FAQ:

 Most of the cells from OpenBMap are coming from OpenCellID (the
'untrusted ones')

 One of the main difference from the three is that only OpenCellID
provides a complete access to the data and the measures.

 OpenCellId added a "CVS uploader" to import bulk CSV data files
mainly to be compatible with the OpenBMap logger. I just don't have
any OpenMoko phone to test it.

  I've been out of the mailing list from some time because I am not
involved in the OpenMoko community (I am more involved in J2ME and
others platforms), but I would be happy to reactivate the integration
effort. Since the beginning, OpenCellID was focused on collecting the
data and not writing clients for all platforms. I would be happy to
support the OpenBMap client and do some modifications if needed.
  Regarding CellHunter, I would ba happy also to work on an
integration. We had some early discussion, but I'll try to reactivate
them.
  Regards,

2009/9/2 Risto H. Kurppa <risto at kurppa.fi>:
> On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 2:47 AM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra<rms at 1407.org> wrote:
>> How does CellHunter compare with OpenBMap ?
>
> I think someone could write a wiki page about this and include it in FAQ's :)
>
> CellHunter: 7milj cells, clients: http://www.opkg.org/package_111.html
> and http://www.opkg.org/package_175.html (and repositories?)
> OpenBMap: 479584 cells of which 82842 are 'trusted'*, client:
> http://www.opkg.org/package_186.html (and repositories)
> OpenCellID: 433459 cells, clients:
> http://www.opencellid.org/users/staticShow/download
>
> * trusted means it's collected via OpenBMap project, not imported from
> other projects.
>
> AFAIK, CellHunter is a competition (teams/individuals against each
> other) on collecting cells as OpenBmap&OpenCellID - well, you just
> collect the cells.
> AFAIK, OpenBmap is told to import data from other projects
> AFAIK, OpenBmap was started because of different views about important
> data to collect between OpenCellID and OpenBMap devels.
>
> To me the whole thing is a big mess. Do we really need three projects.
> Let me bet, they all are now working on tools to use their own data to
> find the position of a phone, right?
>
> 1) if OpenBMap imports from other projects, why it's missing the 7milj
> cellhunter cells?
> 2) AFAIK There are no tools to benefit from the collected data yet
> 3) Can't see a OpenCellID client for Freerunner
>
> I earlier tried CellHunter, didn't work. For me OpenBmap is just
> easiest to use. Which doesn't necessarily make it the best one of
> these three to contribute to. They call the diversity a richness of
> Open Source. Can't really see it here.
>
> r
>
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