Crowdfunding an Ubuntu smartphone (right now)

Parchet Michaël mparchet at
Thu Sep 26 11:06:19 CEST 2013


Is there a device on production with witch I can choice the os I want install or install several os (multi boot) ?

Best regards


> Le 25 sept. 2013 à 21:32, "Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller" <hns at> a écrit :
> Am 25.09.2013 um 20:45 schrieb Stefan Monnier:
>>> I don't see reliability as a problem because it depends on what type
>>> of reliability you are thinking of: component, software, hardware,
>>> production, or availability.
>> Small production runs means very few people have a chance of
>> discovering, let alone, fixing the various problems that can show up.
> Production problems show almost immediately, even if there is only one
> person. And they show after making let's say 20 units. I.e. it does not need
> to produce let's say 1000 units to find real production problems. And if
> you produce 1000 and find that 5 are bad, you don't worry as much as
> if you have 2 bad in 20.
>>> In essence it goes to a modular approach - but "modular" typically drives
>>> cost up (at least for the version having the highest production numbers)
>>> and is in strong contradiction with miniaturization of handheld devices.
>> In my part of the world, phones have been getting bigger rather than
>> smaller.
> Only in dimensions - but they became much slimmer in the same step.
> I.e. the volume has been constant.
>> And while modularity has a cost, it can be offset by economies
>> of scale (both in terms of production as in terms of
>> developping/debugging the kernel support) if that module can be reused
>> in more places.  Free Software strives on standards and modularity.
> Of course it can. It is a matter of calculation.
>> Also, if you can upgrade the screen and the CPU separately, you might
>> attract a few other users, who aren't so interested in Freedom but do
>> like the idea of customizing their phones.
> That is a dream that is not realistic. Every display has a different connector
> (there is no standardization!). And every CPU has different signals and
> power supply needs. I.e. you can swap an OMAP3505 for an OMAP3530
> or an DM3730 but nor for an OMAP4 or OMAP5 or Snapdragon or i.MX6.
> Because they are not designed for this way of use.
>> I'd be very happy to have a Free Phablet (and I actually wouldn't
>> necessarily need it to have cell-phone connectivity, as long as VoIP
>> works well), even if that's not my favorite form factor: at this stage,
>> I'm willing to settle for anything smallish.
>>> It would be sufficient to bundle buying power (by summing up # of
>>> units for different projects), so that we get existing modules
>>> cheaper.  I.e. if all projects would use let's say an DM3730+Memory,
>>> they still can be soldered into different devices. Or  WLAN/BT and
>>> UMTS are already coming as SoC/MCP "modules".
>> Right.  That is a lower-leve of modularity than EOMA but it provides
>> similar benefits (not only direct cost, but also development&debugging).
>>> So the trick is to use a bigger shopping bag and make a different meal
>>> out if it every day.
>> Exactly.  The various "Free Hardware" communities need to pool
>> their resources.
> Yes but I have no idea how this could happen.
> BR,
> Nikolaus
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