Crowdfunding an Ubuntu smartphone (right now)

Parchet Michaël mparchet at sunrise.ch
Thu Sep 26 11:42:17 CEST 2013


Hello,

Can you send me the URL for GTA04A5 ?

Best regards

mparchet

Envoyé de mon iPhone

> Le 26 sept. 2013 à 11:18, "Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller" <hns at goldelico.com> a écrit :
> 
> 
>> Am 26.09.2013 um 11:06 schrieb Parchet Michaël:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> Is there a device on production with witch I can choice the os I want install or install several os (multi boot) ?
> 
> Almost. The GTA04A5 can go on production (again) as soon as we get enough orders.
> 
> -- hns
> 
>> 
>> Best regards
>> 
>> mparchet
>> 
>>> Le 25 sept. 2013 à 21:32, "Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller" <hns at goldelico.com> a écrit :
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Am 25.09.2013 um 20:45 schrieb Stefan Monnier:
>>> 
>>>>> I don't see reliability as a problem because it depends on what type
>>>>> of reliability you are thinking of: component, software, hardware,
>>>>> production, or availability.
>>>> 
>>>> Small production runs means very few people have a chance of
>>>> discovering, let alone, fixing the various problems that can show up.
>>> 
>>> Production problems show almost immediately, even if there is only one
>>> person. And they show after making let's say 20 units. I.e. it does not need
>>> to produce let's say 1000 units to find real production problems. And if
>>> you produce 1000 and find that 5 are bad, you don't worry as much as
>>> if you have 2 bad in 20.
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> In essence it goes to a modular approach - but "modular" typically drives
>>>>> cost up (at least for the version having the highest production numbers)
>>>>> and is in strong contradiction with miniaturization of handheld devices.
>>>> 
>>>> In my part of the world, phones have been getting bigger rather than
>>>> smaller.
>>> 
>>> Only in dimensions - but they became much slimmer in the same step.
>>> I.e. the volume has been constant.
>>> 
>>>> And while modularity has a cost, it can be offset by economies
>>>> of scale (both in terms of production as in terms of
>>>> developping/debugging the kernel support) if that module can be reused
>>>> in more places.  Free Software strives on standards and modularity.
>>> 
>>> Of course it can. It is a matter of calculation.
>>> 
>>>> Also, if you can upgrade the screen and the CPU separately, you might
>>>> attract a few other users, who aren't so interested in Freedom but do
>>>> like the idea of customizing their phones.
>>> 
>>> That is a dream that is not realistic. Every display has a different connector
>>> (there is no standardization!). And every CPU has different signals and
>>> power supply needs. I.e. you can swap an OMAP3505 for an OMAP3530
>>> or an DM3730 but nor for an OMAP4 or OMAP5 or Snapdragon or i.MX6.
>>> Because they are not designed for this way of use.
>>> 
>>>> I'd be very happy to have a Free Phablet (and I actually wouldn't
>>>> necessarily need it to have cell-phone connectivity, as long as VoIP
>>>> works well), even if that's not my favorite form factor: at this stage,
>>>> I'm willing to settle for anything smallish.
>>>> 
>>>>> It would be sufficient to bundle buying power (by summing up # of
>>>>> units for different projects), so that we get existing modules
>>>>> cheaper.  I.e. if all projects would use let's say an DM3730+Memory,
>>>>> they still can be soldered into different devices. Or  WLAN/BT and
>>>>> UMTS are already coming as SoC/MCP "modules".
>>>> 
>>>> Right.  That is a lower-leve of modularity than EOMA but it provides
>>>> similar benefits (not only direct cost, but also development&debugging).
>>>> 
>>>>> So the trick is to use a bigger shopping bag and make a different meal
>>>>> out if it every day.
>>>> 
>>>> Exactly.  The various "Free Hardware" communities need to pool
>>>> their resources.
>>> 
>>> Yes but I have no idea how this could happen.
>>> 
>>> BR,
>>> Nikolaus
>>> 
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