Crowdfunding an Ubuntu smartphone (right now)

Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller hns at goldelico.com
Thu Sep 26 11:47:21 CEST 2013


Am 26.09.2013 um 11:42 schrieb Parchet Michaël:

> Hello,
> 
> Can you send me the URL for GTA04A5 ?

https://shop.goldelico.com/wiki.php?page=GTA04

A5 is the board revision/variant:

http://projects.goldelico.com/p/gta04-main/page/Versions/

> 
> Best regards
> 
> mparchet
> 
> Envoyé de mon iPhone
> 
>> Le 26 sept. 2013 à 11:18, "Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller" <hns at goldelico.com> a écrit :
>> 
>> 
>>> Am 26.09.2013 um 11:06 schrieb Parchet Michaël:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> Is there a device on production with witch I can choice the os I want install or install several os (multi boot) ?
>> 
>> Almost. The GTA04A5 can go on production (again) as soon as we get enough orders.
>> 
>> -- hns
>> 
>>> 
>>> Best regards
>>> 
>>> mparchet
>>> 
>>>> Le 25 sept. 2013 à 21:32, "Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller" <hns at goldelico.com> a écrit :
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Am 25.09.2013 um 20:45 schrieb Stefan Monnier:
>>>> 
>>>>>> I don't see reliability as a problem because it depends on what type
>>>>>> of reliability you are thinking of: component, software, hardware,
>>>>>> production, or availability.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Small production runs means very few people have a chance of
>>>>> discovering, let alone, fixing the various problems that can show up.
>>>> 
>>>> Production problems show almost immediately, even if there is only one
>>>> person. And they show after making let's say 20 units. I.e. it does not need
>>>> to produce let's say 1000 units to find real production problems. And if
>>>> you produce 1000 and find that 5 are bad, you don't worry as much as
>>>> if you have 2 bad in 20.
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> In essence it goes to a modular approach - but "modular" typically drives
>>>>>> cost up (at least for the version having the highest production numbers)
>>>>>> and is in strong contradiction with miniaturization of handheld devices.
>>>>> 
>>>>> In my part of the world, phones have been getting bigger rather than
>>>>> smaller.
>>>> 
>>>> Only in dimensions - but they became much slimmer in the same step.
>>>> I.e. the volume has been constant.
>>>> 
>>>>> And while modularity has a cost, it can be offset by economies
>>>>> of scale (both in terms of production as in terms of
>>>>> developping/debugging the kernel support) if that module can be reused
>>>>> in more places.  Free Software strives on standards and modularity.
>>>> 
>>>> Of course it can. It is a matter of calculation.
>>>> 
>>>>> Also, if you can upgrade the screen and the CPU separately, you might
>>>>> attract a few other users, who aren't so interested in Freedom but do
>>>>> like the idea of customizing their phones.
>>>> 
>>>> That is a dream that is not realistic. Every display has a different connector
>>>> (there is no standardization!). And every CPU has different signals and
>>>> power supply needs. I.e. you can swap an OMAP3505 for an OMAP3530
>>>> or an DM3730 but nor for an OMAP4 or OMAP5 or Snapdragon or i.MX6.
>>>> Because they are not designed for this way of use.
>>>> 
>>>>> I'd be very happy to have a Free Phablet (and I actually wouldn't
>>>>> necessarily need it to have cell-phone connectivity, as long as VoIP
>>>>> works well), even if that's not my favorite form factor: at this stage,
>>>>> I'm willing to settle for anything smallish.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> It would be sufficient to bundle buying power (by summing up # of
>>>>>> units for different projects), so that we get existing modules
>>>>>> cheaper.  I.e. if all projects would use let's say an DM3730+Memory,
>>>>>> they still can be soldered into different devices. Or  WLAN/BT and
>>>>>> UMTS are already coming as SoC/MCP "modules".
>>>>> 
>>>>> Right.  That is a lower-leve of modularity than EOMA but it provides
>>>>> similar benefits (not only direct cost, but also development&debugging).
>>>>> 
>>>>>> So the trick is to use a bigger shopping bag and make a different meal
>>>>>> out if it every day.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Exactly.  The various "Free Hardware" communities need to pool
>>>>> their resources.
>>>> 
>>>> Yes but I have no idea how this could happen.
>>>> 
>>>> BR,
>>>> Nikolaus
>>>> 
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