Crowdfunding an Ubuntu smartphone (right now)

[Parchet Michaël]

Hello,

Is there a phone or tablet with GTA04A5 ?

Thanks for your answer ?

Best regards

mparchet

> Le 26 sept. 2013 à 11:47, "Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller" <hns at goldelico.com> a écrit :
> 
> 
>> Am 26.09.2013 um 11:42 schrieb Parchet Michaël:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> Can you send me the URL for GTA04A5 ?
> 
> https://shop.goldelico.com/wiki.php?page=GTA04
> 
> A5 is the board revision/variant:
> 
> http://projects.goldelico.com/p/gta04-main/page/Versions/
> 
>> 
>> Best regards
>> 
>> mparchet
>> 
>> Envoyé de mon iPhone
>> 
>>> Le 26 sept. 2013 à 11:18, "Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller" <hns at goldelico.com> a écrit :
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Am 26.09.2013 um 11:06 schrieb Parchet Michaël:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello,
>>>> 
>>>> Is there a device on production with witch I can choice the os I want install or install several os (multi boot) ?
>>> 
>>> Almost. The GTA04A5 can go on production (again) as soon as we get enough orders.
>>> 
>>> -- hns
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Best regards
>>>> 
>>>> mparchet
>>>> 
>>>>> Le 25 sept. 2013 à 21:32, "Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller" <hns at goldelico.com> a écrit :
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Am 25.09.2013 um 20:45 schrieb Stefan Monnier:
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I don't see reliability as a problem because it depends on what type
>>>>>>> of reliability you are thinking of: component, software, hardware,
>>>>>>> production, or availability.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Small production runs means very few people have a chance of
>>>>>> discovering, let alone, fixing the various problems that can show up.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Production problems show almost immediately, even if there is only one
>>>>> person. And they show after making let's say 20 units. I.e. it does not need
>>>>> to produce let's say 1000 units to find real production problems. And if
>>>>> you produce 1000 and find that 5 are bad, you don't worry as much as
>>>>> if you have 2 bad in 20.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> In essence it goes to a modular approach - but "modular" typically drives
>>>>>>> cost up (at least for the version having the highest production numbers)
>>>>>>> and is in strong contradiction with miniaturization of handheld devices.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> In my part of the world, phones have been getting bigger rather than
>>>>>> smaller.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Only in dimensions - but they became much slimmer in the same step.
>>>>> I.e. the volume has been constant.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> And while modularity has a cost, it can be offset by economies
>>>>>> of scale (both in terms of production as in terms of
>>>>>> developping/debugging the kernel support) if that module can be reused
>>>>>> in more places.  Free Software strives on standards and modularity.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Of course it can. It is a matter of calculation.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Also, if you can upgrade the screen and the CPU separately, you might
>>>>>> attract a few other users, who aren't so interested in Freedom but do
>>>>>> like the idea of customizing their phones.
>>>>> 
>>>>> That is a dream that is not realistic. Every display has a different connector
>>>>> (there is no standardization!). And every CPU has different signals and
>>>>> power supply needs. I.e. you can swap an OMAP3505 for an OMAP3530
>>>>> or an DM3730 but nor for an OMAP4 or OMAP5 or Snapdragon or i.MX6.
>>>>> Because they are not designed for this way of use.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'd be very happy to have a Free Phablet (and I actually wouldn't
>>>>>> necessarily need it to have cell-phone connectivity, as long as VoIP
>>>>>> works well), even if that's not my favorite form factor: at this stage,
>>>>>> I'm willing to settle for anything smallish.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> It would be sufficient to bundle buying power (by summing up # of
>>>>>>> units for different projects), so that we get existing modules
>>>>>>> cheaper.  I.e. if all projects would use let's say an DM3730+Memory,
>>>>>>> they still can be soldered into different devices. Or  WLAN/BT and
>>>>>>> UMTS are already coming as SoC/MCP "modules".
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Right.  That is a lower-leve of modularity than EOMA but it provides
>>>>>> similar benefits (not only direct cost, but also development&debugging).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> So the trick is to use a bigger shopping bag and make a different meal
>>>>>>> out if it every day.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Exactly.  The various "Free Hardware" communities need to pool
>>>>>> their resources.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yes but I have no idea how this could happen.
>>>>> 
>>>>> BR,
>>>>> Nikolaus
>>>>> 
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