Daily use of Neo1973

Ralf Krantz ralfkrantz at aol.com
Wed Feb 20 20:50:03 CET 2008

I am using my Neo (latest Qtopia image) since about 10 days as my
primary business phone. I am a quality engineer of automobile industry
and the main problems I have before deeper testing, is that the Neo will
not establish a bluetooth connection with the handsfree system of common
automobile bluetooth units (OEM). Further more I haven't found a
seperate charger for the Neo. I charge it at home with my Linux-machine
and during work the battery get's flat after about 4 hours using it. My
windows-business-machine won't load the battery, which means I have to
wait until the next day. Is there somebody out there, who can give me an
advice which wall-plug-charger I have to buy and secondly which
car-charger I have to buy?

Kind Regards


Am Mittwoch, den 20.02.2008, 19:48 +0100 schrieb Tilman Baumann:

> Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
> > Tilman Baumann writes:
> >> Hm. I never tried Windows. But this does not make much sense to me.
> >> The Os just has to select a device configuration to allow it to draw 
> >> power. This does not mean it has to have a driver for it.
> >> I'm pretty much sure my linux server which i sometimes use for charging 
> >> does not have any driver whatsoever for this device. But it charges nicely.
> >>
> >> Strange. But however, it is windows...
> > 
> > I don't know anything about Windows, but -- the problem with not
> > charging on dumb cords is that the NEO is polite about needing to
> > handshake, and being able to request 500mA, before it will draw
> > 500mA.  If the device on the other end doesn't even do that, the NEO
> > will only draw 100mA which isn't enough (the fast_cccv parameter
> > somebody else mentioned will, apparently, force it to draw lots of
> > power anyway).
> I know. But selecting a device configuration (allowing the device to go 
> into a status that consumes more than 10mA) has nothing to do with 
> drivers or anything like that.
> At least not necessarily.
> Any USB device just offers the host one or many possible device 
> configurations (descriptors) with they respective power consumtion 
> profiles when it is plugged in.
> The next step for the host (operating system) is to select one of these 
> configurations to allow the device to go in this mode.
> The os does not need to now what a device does, in order to allow it to 
> do anything.
> I'm really surprised and not entirely convinced that windows does not 
> select a profile on any unknown device.
> A mobile phone would be not the only situation where this behaviour 
> seems like a bad idea.
> Regards
>   Tilman
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