Windows Client Software: The hard truth.
jeremiah.flerchinger at gmail.com
Fri Jul 13 07:44:18 CEST 2007
SyncML is a very good solution for the most part. Apple should support
SyncML out of the box with iSync. We'll have to develop a *.plist xml
document to handle specifics of the transfer, and maybe a bash script
for installation, but that should be it.
Dealing with windows will be a bit more of a pain. I'm pretty sure no
implementation of Outlook or Outlook Express support SyncML out of
the box. They do have (limited) support for vCard and iCal formats
for individual file importing/exporting. Windows users could always
install Thunderbird and SyncML extensions, although I think Mozilla
Calendar has the same issues as outlook regarding calendar syncs. Maybe
if the new iTunes can sync phones other than the iPhone...
I think funambol
(http://www.funambol.com/opensource/project/subsystems.html) has open
source clients & plugins that could be used to help people running
Windows. My suggestion is for those people to buy a Mac ;-) .
Derick Jones wrote:
> I have no idea how to program and I just "got" into linux because I
> like the whole idea, but as windows user for most of my life im so
> used to point and click and it happens. Honestly if you want to target
> this to average people that's how it has to be. I mean I installed
> ubuntu and it toke me like 3-4 hours of research just to get my
> gigabit Ethernet to work because it was incompatible with the install.
> The average person isn't going to have that kind of time to figure out
> how to sync there neo to their Windows PC. I love this whole idea of
> freedom and im sure most people do. But if they don't get how it works
> how will they use it? Honestly im devoting a lot of my time into
> reading about linux and openmoko simply because I want to learn how to
> be free and most people don't know how to even install something in
> linux. So unless there's some kind of installer that does everything
> for them its going to be a big obstacle to over come. Im just an
> average user and I love this because your letting me say what I think
> even though you have know Idea who I am and I thank you for that freedom!
> Derick Jones
> Cant wait to get my Neo so that I may be very frustrated, but gain so
> much knowledge!
> *From:* Jeff Andros [mailto:jeff at bigredtj.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 12, 2007 4:54 PM
> *To:* Mark
> *Cc:* openmoko-devel at lists.openmoko.org
> *Subject:* Re: Windows Client Software: The hard truth.
> It's not anywhere near that hard. since we've got a syncML client on
> the phone (or at least we will... that's definately a block issue) all
> we need is a syncml program for the desktop side. tossing 'windows
> syncml -"windows mobile"' into google gives back results in job-lot
> quantities... that's about as far as I got... I'm not really feeling
> like evaluating them.
> That said, we probably want to have either an official branded desktop
> solution (the more crossplatform the better) or at least a recommended
> software choice. I'm sure there is a open source sync program we
> could talk to about some kind of partnership. Not having an official
> "this will work with your computer" program would probably be a pretty
> bad blow to getting this out to Sean's dad(makes people nervous).
> While most open source programs have really great extension
> mechanisms, there are a lot of people who don't want to take the time
> to set any of that up (how many people do you know who run firefox
> stone stock?). It would be cool to have a list of desktop software
> options up on the wiki, but we definitely
> Anyways, I'm really talking out my ear, since I haven't looked at any
> of the included apps yet either(are there any yet?... are we just
> using the desktop program of your choice?).
> On 7/12/07, *Mark* <markitect at gmail.com <mailto:markitect at gmail.com>>
> I have to agree; when the phone hits mass availability, the average
> user (assuming mass adoption) will be in windows. That would
> effectively make it just another phone to them. I guess I just
> assumed the linux apps were being written to be easily portable when
> the time comes.
> I haven't looked at the Linux host apps at all , but as long as they
> are gtk based it might not be too painful. We might also bundle it
> with the required cygwin dlls, but personally I hate that solution.
> There may also need to be some driver work, does anyone know if it
> will show up as a mass storage device to windows?
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