preserving illume keyboard on update

Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) raster at
Mon Aug 25 16:57:03 CEST 2008

On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:36:12 +0200 Jelle De Loecker <skerit at>

> Interesting!
> But "who" is openmoko? What group of persons decide this? And surely 
> they must know about this?

this has been beaten to death on the community list already :) i am just trying
to give people what they are saying they want - as best i can.

> If not, and you want me to vent my frustration with the qpe keyboard 
> somewhere else, just give me an address!
> I've made a list! :)

hahahahaha! :) seriously - right now asu is still young. it wont be perfect.
it's missing a lot. i have actually now got FSO building myself and am already
sending patches to mickey for the FSO build that does use the illume keyboard.
i intend to continue to support FSO over the long term and have a reasonable go
at the gui end of things there while mickey & gang really hammer at the back

> I just hope this doesn't turn into something like the 
> "gimp-in-one-window" struggle...
> Here's hoping for a good solution!

if you ask me... try FSO. the phone bits are not that mature - but it's
definitely got a future going for it. :)

> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) schreef:
> > On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 01:53:47 +0200 Jelle De Loecker <skerit at>
> > babbled:
> >
> > the whole keyboard thing is a mess right now. illume has one - that
> > seemingly people want. qpe has one that om wants. illume provides a gui
> > config to turn it's keyboard on and off or launch a 3rd party vkbd app and
> > use that. this gui is turned off by om and pretty much permanently
> > inaccessible. qpe doesn't provide any way to say "yes" or "no" to getting
> > its keyboard up. so basically qpe is playing the game of "take my keyboard
> > or dont use qpe" right now, and illume is playing the game of "do what you
> > want - i have config for that", but that game is pretty much inaccessible.
> >
> > there is a dbus call you can use to fiddle with some config but that
> > incantation needs a dbus session key (so you'll need to steal it from a
> > running session or do this with a terminal on the FR itself), but this
> > still will only affect illume and do nothing about qpe.
> >
> > this all needs to be resolved and so it'll be a mess until it's cleared up.
> > the wiki is not really correct - it's well behind any development and it's
> > not really understanding how the keyboard works, but that has been changing
> > rapidly
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