why openmoko is so slow? Is it a joke?

Jon 'maddog' Hall maddog at li.org
Mon Jul 13 17:51:41 CEST 2009

Hello mobiphil,

>They found a very cheap solution, they sold the devices for lot of
>money, practically they fooled lot of people. I can imagine the company
>manager behind smiling about all the complain emails and
>naive users still hoping their freerunner will display nicely one day.

Having worked in corporate management for a system vendor for sixteen
years and being familiar with the costs of bringing a hardware and
software platform to market, I doubt that the "company manager" of
Openmoko was smiling about this project.  While I have not seen the
books of Openmoko.com, I doubt that the company made any real money in
working with the Openmoko community, and may have lost money.

This project was, and is, about an Open Phone, one designed by a
community of people.  The community made a decision about the Glamo
chip.  In retrospect it does not seem to have been a good one.

>and use those phones as reference...Again, M800 has
>keyboard, very usefull for a linux phone. Only drawback, it has only
>64megs memory, but better have less applications running smoother, than
>several slower... So ... whatsoever would be the device...

Stating this you show that you completely misunderstood the goals of the
Openmoko project.  Porting the Linux kernel and having the upper levels
of software interface available on a phone designed and manufactured by
Samsung is completely different than having software running on hardware
platform that is completely community driven, open in design and
manufacturing specification, changeable and freely licensable to many

As to the final performance of the FreeRunner, I am not sure that any of
us have seen the "final" performance.  My experience in the past has
been that tweaks to the kernel code and libraries often get 3-10%
performance boost in the final days of profiling and tuning.  But this
is typically done after basic functionality is obtained.

I am sorry that you paid your $400. to join the project.  Perhaps you
can sell your phone to someone who understands and believes in the
Openmoko project and recover some of your money.

As for myself, I will continue to push for the vision of the Openmoko



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